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Old 09-10-2006, 10:43 PM   #15976
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Hey guys, here's my current carpet rubber setup I've been running. This is as it is after my last day of testing I've had. If anyone wants to give it a shot and let me know what they think that would be cool. A couple people have tried it and liked it so far.

Front end:
RIDE HEIGHT: 5mm
ANTI-ROLL BAR: silver
CASTOR: 4
KICK UP: none
ANTI DIVE: none
TOE: 0
ROLL CENTER: riser plate only
CAMBER: -1.5
WHEELBASE: med/long
BELLCRANK: center hole + 3mm shims under ballstud
STEERING KNUCKLE: front hole
LOWER SHOCK LOCATION: outer hole
UPPER SHOCK LOCATION: inner hole
CENTER TRACK ROD LENGTH: stock
INNER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: upper hole
NOTES: no riser plate under bulkheads, standard arm mounts (no arm sweep). No wheel spacer on outside of hex. Hybrid o-rings in shocks.

Front shocks:
OIL: 30 wt.
SPRING: white
PISTON: 3 hole
LENGTH: 61mm
DROOP: 2mm uptravel

Rear end:
RIDE HEIGHT: 5mm
ANTI/PRO SQUAT: none
ANTI ROLL BAR: black
TOE IN: 2
ROLL CENTER: riser plate + 1mm
CAMBER: -1.5mm
WHEELBASE: med/short
REAR HUB LOCATION: center
OUTER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: inner hole
OUTER CAMBER LINK SHIMS: none
INNER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: upper hole (asphalt tower)
LOWER SHOCK LOCATION: 2nd hole in from outside
UPPER SHOCK LOCATION: 3rd hole in from outside
NOTES: no riser plate under bulkhead. white plastic wheel spacer on outside of hex. Hybrid o-rings in shocks.

REAR SHOCKS:
OIL: Schumacher 35wt
SPRING: Schumacher white
PISTON: 3 hole
LENGTH: 62.5mm
DROOP: 3mm uptravel

Other:
BODY: Mazda 6
CHASSIS: stock 2mm
TOPDECK: stock 2mm
FRONT DIFF: oneway
ESC: GTB
CELLS: EA IB3800
MOTOR: Novak 5.5 BL
TIRES: RP30GL
NOTES: Works very well for stock and 19t as well, I just got the car stable enough for mod by removing the arm sweep out of the front with the long (#U1989) blocks. This week I will try putting them back on with a 19t motor and see if theyre still faster for 19t or stock. For mod the arm sweep made the car have too much mid and entry steering which made the rear end unstable entering the corner, and then on throttle it had a push from it. Removing the arm sweep smoothed it out, but I think it may still be faster. If the track is really open then I would probably still be running it in mod, but my carpet track is small. If you want the car even more stable for some reason the Stratus MKIII and Parma Type M make it much more stable with less rotation but more entry steering.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:22 AM   #15977
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Weylin thanks for the setup. I'll try and save it to a PDF format

Kerr...if you can do a write and setup sheet that would be awesome.

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Old 09-11-2006, 10:14 AM   #15978
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Default Differences Between MI2 and MI2 EC

Hi I'm new to this thread, does anyone know approximately what page number back is there a comparison between the MI2 and MI2EC.
I've heard the MI2EC is a completely different car, but I'm looking for a second car for 19T Rubber Carpet for this winter and didn't want to spend very much. I've seen some new old stock Mi2s going for pretty cheap locally.
Is the car pretty competitive box stock, and suggestions on parts I'll need incase I break down and pick one up?

Any help is appreciated!
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:57 AM   #15979
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Hey guys, here's my current carpet rubber setup I've been running. This is as it is after my last day of testing I've had. If anyone wants to give it a shot and let me know what they think that would be cool. A couple people have tried it and liked it so far.

Front end:
RIDE HEIGHT: 5mm
ANTI-ROLL BAR: silver
CASTOR: 4
KICK UP: none
ANTI DIVE: none
TOE: 0
ROLL CENTER: riser plate only
CAMBER: -1.5
WHEELBASE: med/long
BELLCRANK: center hole + 3mm shims under ballstud
STEERING KNUCKLE: front hole
LOWER SHOCK LOCATION: outer hole
UPPER SHOCK LOCATION: inner hole
CENTER TRACK ROD LENGTH: stock
INNER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: upper hole
NOTES: no riser plate under bulkheads, standard arm mounts (no arm sweep). No wheel spacer on outside of hex. Hybrid o-rings in shocks.

Front shocks:
OIL: 30 wt.
SPRING: white
PISTON: 3 hole
LENGTH: 61mm
DROOP: 2mm uptravel

Rear end:
RIDE HEIGHT: 5mm
ANTI/PRO SQUAT: none
ANTI ROLL BAR: black
TOE IN: 2
ROLL CENTER: riser plate + 1mm
CAMBER: -1.5mm
WHEELBASE: med/short
REAR HUB LOCATION: center
OUTER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: inner hole
OUTER CAMBER LINK SHIMS: none
INNER CAMBER LINK LOCATION: upper hole (asphalt tower)
LOWER SHOCK LOCATION: 2nd hole in from outside
UPPER SHOCK LOCATION: 3rd hole in from outside
NOTES: no riser plate under bulkhead. white plastic wheel spacer on outside of hex. Hybrid o-rings in shocks.

REAR SHOCKS:
OIL: Schumacher 35wt
SPRING: Schumacher white
PISTON: 3 hole
LENGTH: 62.5mm
DROOP: 3mm uptravel

Other:
BODY: Mazda 6
CHASSIS: stock 2mm
TOPDECK: stock 2mm
FRONT DIFF: oneway
ESC: GTB
CELLS: EA IB3800
MOTOR: Novak 5.5 BL
TIRES: RP30GL
NOTES: Works very well for stock and 19t as well, I just got the car stable enough for mod by removing the arm sweep out of the front with the long (#U1989) blocks. This week I will try putting them back on with a 19t motor and see if theyre still faster for 19t or stock. For mod the arm sweep made the car have too much mid and entry steering which made the rear end unstable entering the corner, and then on throttle it had a push from it. Removing the arm sweep smoothed it out, but I think it may still be faster. If the track is really open then I would probably still be running it in mod, but my carpet track is small. If you want the car even more stable for some reason the Stratus MKIII and Parma Type M make it much more stable with less rotation but more entry steering.
Small world....this is the exact set up that I came up with minus the shock oil. I have 40wt up front and 30wt in the rear. Everything else is dead on. Great minds think alike.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:25 AM   #15980
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LOL Clint didn't I send you my setup ? Or are you saying you made the same changes that I did to what my setup was when I sent it to you.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:27 AM   #15981
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LOL Clint didn't I send you my setup ? Or are you saying you made the same changes that I did to what my setup was when I sent it to you.
Clint doesn't know what he's saying ....he's all excited and gitty about wearing the dress, he can barely contain himself.
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:18 PM   #15982
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Yeah now he has a real reason for wearing a dress, usually he has to make up some lame excuse for why he's wearing a dress whenever someone catches him .
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:43 PM   #15983
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Mr. Phalen took this really nice shot of my car this weekend. Thanks T.
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Old 09-11-2006, 01:19 PM   #15984
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I can't believe he actually caught a picture of your car at speed, it was so fast. He must be getting to be a better photagrapher.
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LOL Clint didn't I send you my setup ? Or are you saying you made the same changes that I did to what my setup was when I sent it to you.
This is what I came up with after a crappy outting I was having. You did send me that set up didn't you...but I didn't have it on the car to start the day out and then I came up with that set up. You're my idol though.

Even though we're in Vegas....should you loose this bet....Would I get in trouble for putting a dress on a minor????
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Clint doesn't know what he's saying ....he's all excited and gitty about wearing the dress, he can barely contain himself.
When you come over to get my race stuff I'm going to have it on
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When you come over to get my race stuff I'm going to have it on
Yep, you'll just take any chance you can get to wear that dress huh? If I do end up having to wear it, say like if the race goes like carpet nats and I can never run due to electronic issues... is it going to be clean ? I dont want lip stick smeared all over it or smelling like perfume if I have to wear it .
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Mr. Phalen took this really nice shot of my car this weekend. Thanks T.
that's bada$$.
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Tony's getting really good. We'll see how good his skills are at indoor photography in Vegas
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hey do u guys use chassis protecors?
looking at puting two layers of book covering contact to protect my chassis. opinions any one??
It always pays to be protectec , tape works well but it takes to long to apply/cutout then peel off again when its trashed. The best thing to do is make yourself a lexan chassis protector, i used to use the undertray from the Mi2 underbody kit but i just noitced Parma now sell sheets of lexan in varying thicknesses (30"-50"). Trim one up, attach it using some of the screws already under the chassis and away you go.

Eventually the lexan will start to cone where the screw heads push through it and it will push the lexan away from the chassis causing it to drag but this is after quite a few meetings. It can be a pain removing the lexan sheet if you're in a rush but it is worthwhile esp as at the end of the outdoor season your chassis still looks mint You do have to run a bit more ride height than normal (~6mm so the car is legal with the lexan sheet on) but alot of tracks are bumpy anyway, hehe.
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