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Old 06-07-2006, 05:42 AM   #15061
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Guys Im sure this has been talked about I just couldnt find it.

Mi2 EC edition and anything higher than Stock racing im just killing front axles and cvd's.

The aluminum one's just arent working.
Pins breaking,pins sliding out even with locktite on it and so on.

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Guys Im sure this has been talked about I just couldnt find it.

Mi2 EC edition and anything higher than Stock racing im just killing front axles and cvd's.

The aluminum one's just arent working.
Pins breaking,pins sliding out even with locktite on it and so on.

Any tips?

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Guys Im sure this has been talked about I just couldnt find it.

Mi2 EC edition and anything higher than Stock racing im just killing front axles and cvd's.

The aluminum one's just arent working.
Pins breaking,pins sliding out even with locktite on it and so on.

Any tips?

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Make a 'flat spot' in the pins using a Dremel or similar.
Once the CVD is assembled, put a thin piece of heatshrink around the CVD, this will stop the pins from moving.

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Old 06-07-2006, 07:46 AM   #15064
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Glue a 1.6 mm shim to the back of the steering hub so that it acts as a stop.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:59 AM   #15065
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Guys Im sure this has been talked about I just couldnt find it.

Mi2 EC edition and anything higher than Stock racing im just killing front axles and cvd's.

The aluminum one's just arent working.
Pins breaking,pins sliding out even with locktite on it and so on.

Any tips?

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Yeah, most likely this is happening because the CVD's will bind a full steering throw which just wears the crap out of them. I glue a 2mm shim to the back of the steering knuckle to limit steering throw and it's a huge improvement. I don't feel I ever need that much throw so I'm not worried about it. Be sure to check your steering endpoints after though.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:47 AM   #15066
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Guys Im sure this has been talked about I just couldnt find it.

Mi2 EC edition and anything higher than Stock racing im just killing front axles and cvd's.

The aluminum one's just arent working.
Pins breaking,pins sliding out even with locktite on it and so on.

Any tips?

Les
I had a rear pin come out in my main this weekend and that even with it being thread locked. I put in a new pin and re-thread locked the set screw. Then I did the shrink wrap trick over the rear CVD's so I highly doubt this will happen ever again, at least in the rear.

Now in the front I have the Titanium axles with the alum cvd. The pins stay in but I have problems keeping the pins in that the blade fits over. They are so loose that I could push them out with my fingers!!!!!!!!!!! The worked loose when I ran the spool but with the one way in I did not have that problem. I'm going back to the spool so looks like I will be using a tiny amount of JB weld. Just enough to keep the pin in but if I need to change it I can still get it out if need be.
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Brian are you running the TiR CVDs? I put them in for this past week so far so good.
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Brian are you running the TiR CVDs? I put them in for this past week so far so good.
Yeah thats it. I have them in the front only and the stock Schumacher CVD's in the rear. The TiR ones I have problems with the pins that the blades go over. They push out with just my fingers so we know that isn't going to stay in during a run thats for sure. 3 times with the spool in they where 1/2 way out. Like I said I will fix that problem for this weekend thats for sure.
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TiR CVD's are my favorite, but just recently I had 2 pins move slightly in the end of the dogbone. First time that's ever happened to me. It's probably because of TiR going to cheaper materials and such to save on manufacturing costs, it wouldn't be the first time they've done that. I just pushed the pins back into position and put a drop of thin CA on it and wiped the excess glue off. So far no problems .
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I doubt it's a material issue, more likely to be a dimensional issue - think you would only be looking at odd microns oversize and maybe teh pins could come loose. I don't know. All i can say is that the TIR ones that i have in my car are absolutely fine. Fitted them when i got them, and they are still there and no problems with any of the pins. I do have a brand new set sitting in my haouer as spares, must check them to see if the pins are loose at all. If so, then your bset bet is Loctite 603 retaining compound.
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Sounds like Clint is running pretty good
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I doubt it's a material issue, more likely to be a dimensional issue - think you would only be looking at odd microns oversize and maybe teh pins could come loose. I don't know. All i can say is that the TIR ones that i have in my car are absolutely fine. Fitted them when i got them, and they are still there and no problems with any of the pins. I do have a brand new set sitting in my haouer as spares, must check them to see if the pins are loose at all. If so, then your bset bet is Loctite 603 retaining compound.
Good thought on the locktite, if I ever have a problem again I'll try that. The only problem I had with the pins loosening was on a pair of new bones. The older ones I've had have been awesome, I can run them on the back of my car for like a year . Maybe there was a tiny size issue with the bone or something on the new ones. But your right red locktite would work the best for holding them still I think.
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Schumacher 'used' to do alloy and titanium versions of the shock mount posts, but they seemed to have dissappeared from their site

I have the alloy version myself and they are far better than the plastic and nut version that comes with the kit.

Maybe Tir make them, so it might be worth giving them a call.

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Good thought on the locktite, if I ever have a problem again I'll try that. The only problem I had with the pins loosening was on a pair of new bones. The older ones I've had have been awesome, I can run them on the back of my car for like a year . Maybe there was a tiny size issue with the bone or something on the new ones. But your right red locktite would work the best for holding them still I think.
We are now team mates three times over.....LOL The oneway set up is pretty good but I have one area on the track that's costing me two tenths. I better get it right today. We have a low representation from the schuie camp at this race but we will pull something out of the hat.
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Glad you found you a new deal. I'm sure you'll like it.

Now get out there and get to work.
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