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Old 01-11-2010, 02:48 PM
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Default Don't Overtime Nemesis

Originally Posted by cyclone x
i use Tekin esc's with the 203 software
You should be super fast with the Nemesis, just make sure you don't overtime the motor with the esc.
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:05 PM
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What would be a good starting point fdr with this motor in a touring car with a lrp spx ecs? The track I run on is about 120 by 50 ft.
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What would be a good starting point fdr with this motor in a touring car with a lrp spx ecs? The track I run on is about 120 by 50 ft.
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Will you be running a 13.5 or a 17.5 in this case? I would suggest a good starting point with a standard ESC such as you suggested above would be the following:

17.5 - 5.00 FDR
13.5 - 5.50 FDR

Make sure you check the motor after 1-2 minutes for heat and keep the temps under 160 - 180 for safe measure.

If you have an esc that will add timing you will need to futher reduce the FDR.

These should be good starting points.
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Originally Posted by JFuel11
Hello,

Will you be running a 13.5 or a 17.5 in this case? I would suggest a good starting point with a standard ESC such as you suggested above would be the following:

17.5 - 5.00 FDR
13.5 - 5.50 FDR

Make sure you check the motor after 1-2 minutes for heat and keep the temps under 160 - 180 for safe measure.

If you have an esc that will add timing you will need to futher reduce the FDR.

These should be good starting points.
How much boost are you running with rs?
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How much boost are you running with rs?
I have found about 35-42 works really well, I have not ran full 50 boost on the V203 yet. Also I run little to no turbo, but I am on a smaller indoor track at the moment that does not have super long straights.

I have also found the RPM range on v203 makes big differnece and because the Nemesis motor likes to rev you need to adjust he rpm range larger with this motor more so than with other motors.

Be really carful with the turbo and delay. The Nemesis motor will start to bog quickly with to much turbo and then fade fast and build heat. This is due to way to much timing or gear...

Hope this helps.
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i have tried my nemesis a few times. tried different gearing high and low. all over. the first duo is still away better motor
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Everyone considering to buy this motor stay away. Just another flop from trinity. Gave it an honest try, but it just won't work right with gearing. Have to go so low you loose top end. worst part about it is I asked for a refund or to trade up for a decent motor like the duo and was told I would have to spend another 60.00 to do so. This is the second motor in a row from trinity that flopped(pulse). It's to bad because I have owned countless trinity motors and will no longer purchase them. Also will do my best to turn everyone I know in the hobby to another brand. I just feel like trinity is not standing behind their products performance and doesn't care once you have purchased one of their items.

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Nice information is posted here in this thread which are really helpful and good for me. Thanks for making all these posts here.
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Originally Posted by JFuel11
I am running a small to medium indoor carpet track and have found a rollout of 58-62 to be the best using a Tekin RS speedo and running a decent amount of boost and very little if any turbo and long delay.

With my Duo2 motor I was running a rollout more like 68-72+ previously.

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I am running 1/12 RS v203 and have a Nemesis 13.5 sitting in its' box. Might give it a few runs and see what I can learn. With the v203 software, most are finding that setting up with 0* on the motor really lets you use the torque the motor makes, then add the advance settings. At what point is this a dimenishing return? Can you gain more torque at -10* as compared with 0*? Anyone tried this. If you were setting up at 0*/45*Boost/10*Turbo @ 0.7 delay on a medium to large layout, what would you expect with a -10*/50*/15* @0.8? Could you get a stronger bottom to midrange? THoughts?
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Originally Posted by WIITA
Everyone considering to buy this motor stay away. Just another flop from trinity. Gave it an honest try, but it just won't work right with gearing. Have to go so low you loose top end. worst part about it is I asked for a refund or to trade up for a decent motor like the duo and was told I would have to spend another 60.00 to do so. This is the second motor in a row from trinity that flopped. It's to bad because I have owned countless trinity motors and will no longer purchase them. Also will do my best to turn everyone I know in the hobby to another brand. I just feel like trinity is not standing behind their products performance and doesn't care once you have purchased one of their items.
2nd in a row? you're hallucinating. Duo was a success...Pulse not so much. Duo2 is great...and Nemesis is great so far. Everyone that i personally know who have run it have good things to say and others who i lended 2 of my Nemesis motors to have since bought some for their own use. You're just doing something wrong.
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Originally Posted by Syber Serulean
2nd in a row? you're hallucinating. Duo was a success...Pulse not so much. Duo2 is great...and Nemesis is great so far. Everyone that i personally know who have run it have good things to say and others who i lended 2 of my Nemesis motors to have since bought some for their own use. You're just doing something wrong.
Which timing are you running?
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right at the 2 marking at 20*. Motor comes off anywhere from 150ish to about 170 depending on how hard im driving around. I think im geared 3.42 on my cyclone though i think i went up a tooth on my pinion putting me at 3.36 but im not sure. Im using a GTB with the punch setting turned all the way up.
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Originally Posted by Syber Serulean
2nd in a row? you're hallucinating. Duo was a success...Pulse not so much. Duo2 is great...and Nemesis is great so far. Everyone that i personally know who have run it have good things to say and others who i lended 2 of my Nemesis motors to have since bought some for their own use. You're just doing something wrong.
I am talking about the pulse and nemesis. Duo is a good motor. Have you ran the motor in 1/12 3.7 volts? Just don't want to see anyone else buy a motor that trinity will not stand behind. Sorry for my blunt statement just callig how I see it. I looked to trinity to make it right and they wouldn't work with me. If I do that in my busisness I loose coustomers, looks like they will too I guess. Oh well I already chalked the 75.00 up to a loss no big deal.
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Originally Posted by WIITA
I am talking about the pulse and nemesis. Duo is a good motor. Have you ran the motor in 1/12 3.7 volts? Just don't want to see anyone else buy a motor that trinity will not stand behind. Sorry for my blunt statement just callig how I see it. I looked to trinity to make it right and they wouldn't work with me. If I do that in my busisness I loose coustomers, looks like they will too I guess. Oh well I already chalked the 75.00 up to a loss no big deal.
funny thing is out of all the times ive raced with you. i dont know that i have seen this motor in your car yet!

i have it in mine and its getting better every week that i play with it. it has taken me time to figure the motor out. i know im in love with the 13.5 its been in my sedan for 4 weeks now! i run it about 190* degrees and it works great. has yet to be beat!
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