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Old 06-11-2010, 10:29 AM   #1111
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Here's a startup setup for MOD:

Profile = C.H.E.A.T MODE
MMP Timing = 26 degrees
Start RPM = 12,000
End RPM = 30,000
Punch Control = High (To prevent wheel spin)
Start Power = LOW
Throttle Curve = Linear
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:39 AM   #1112
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I got myself a MMP and just want to know what settings to try in cheat mode for 13.5 class or would someone share their settings. I'm running a 13.5 Ballistic motor.

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I need help with CHEAT mode settings and FDR for this track PLEASE with 13.5 Ballistic.
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:08 PM   #1113
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Keep the timing on the motor at factory setting but adjust the timing on your MMP. Again don't use MOD motor below 6.5T or it will be undrivable unless your really in a huge flowing 1/8th scale track when slowing down is not really necessary.
Sorry, but I disagree massively with this statement...
We've (well not me personally, but the HHUK team) have been running the MMP happily with a 3.5t, and it certainly isnt undriveable... yes, it can be a little lary on power, but it is open modified afterall, you can't just expect to pick it up and drive it like a stock

Looking at the setting you've suggested, I would personally ditch the punch control, at the very least don't run it high, as it simply robs feeling, and doesnt allow you the motor to work properly at lower revs. Hate to say it, but if you need to kurb the wheelspin, use less throttle thumb...

Also, the rev ramp kicking in at 12,000 rpm will do no favours... thats too low in the rev range for a modified, you need to let the motor get you out the turn before having the speedo bring in the timing.. To support this, we're also running our 10.5's with a rev range 15,200-31,000, and 45 of timing, and they sing down the straight, but are smooth off the turn.

As for the other settings used, looking on the file in front of me;
Timing; 16deg
RPM; 25000-31,6000
Start power; Medium
Dead Band; smallest (0.0250ms)
Punch Control; 0%
Brake amount; 100%
Drag brake; 0%
FDR; 7.6
Motor; SP v2 3.5t, middle timing (B under centre tab)

The track we were on is also one of the toughest on motors and brakes, as it's reasonable speed, but with three hard braking and acceleration zones... if the speedo works round there, it generally works well everywhere else! Compared to the nosram in one A.Hara's car this weekend, that above setup had more poney down the straight...

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Old 06-14-2010, 12:54 AM   #1114
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I need help with CHEAT mode settings and FDR for this track PLEASE with 13.5 Ballistic.
I would start with:

Brake: 100%
Drag Brake: 0%
Start power: Low
Punch: disabled
C.E.A.T.H : mode on
Timing: 50
RPM: 5000 - 15100
FDR: 6
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:27 AM   #1115
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I would start with:

Brake: 100%
Drag Brake: 0%
Start power: Low
Punch: disabled
C.E.A.T.H : mode on
Timing: 50
RPM: 5000 - 15100
FDR: 6
Thanx..much appreciated.
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:55 AM   #1116
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Thanks for clarifying that TryHard I haven't really play with MMP with MOd motor. Last time I rum MMP with MOD it's just too aggresive for me.

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Sorry, but I disagree massively with this statement...
We've (well not me personally, but the HHUK team) have been running the MMP happily with a 3.5t, and it certainly isnt undriveable... yes, it can be a little lary on power, but it is open modified afterall, you can't just expect to pick it up and drive it like a stock

Looking at the setting you've suggested, I would personally ditch the punch control, at the very least don't run it high, as it simply robs feeling, and doesnt allow you the motor to work properly at lower revs. Hate to say it, but if you need to kurb the wheelspin, use less throttle thumb...

Also, the rev ramp kicking in at 12,000 rpm will do no favours... thats too low in the rev range for a modified, you need to let the motor get you out the turn before having the speedo bring in the timing.. To support this, we're also running our 10.5's with a rev range 15,200-31,000, and 45 of timing, and they sing down the straight, but are smooth off the turn.

As for the other settings used, looking on the file in front of me;
Timing; 16deg
RPM; 25000-31,6000
Start power; Medium
Dead Band; smallest (0.0250ms)
Punch Control; 0%
Brake amount; 100%
Drag brake; 0%
FDR; 7.6
Motor; SP v2 3.5t, middle timing (B under centre tab)

The track we were on is also one of the toughest on motors and brakes, as it's reasonable speed, but with three hard braking and acceleration zones... if the speedo works round there, it generally works well everywhere else! Compared to the nosram in one A.Hara's car this weekend, that above setup had more poney down the straight...

Regards
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:48 AM   #1117
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Hey Guys,

Really nice setups you have there for the MMP.
Would you have by any chance an idea of an RPM range I could use in CHEAT mode for a CRC GEN X 10 in 235mm with a 10.5T X12? Its for a large asphalt track mainly used by 1/10 and 1/8 Gas powered cars.

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:21 PM   #1118
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As for the other settings used, looking on the file in front of me;
Timing; 16deg
RPM; 25000-31,6000
Start power; Medium
Dead Band; smallest (0.0250ms)
Punch Control; 0%
Brake amount; 100%
Drag brake; 0%
FDR; 7.6
Motor; SP v2 3.5t, middle timing (B under centre tab)
FDR 7.6 is that in a touring car? what does that translate to in a pancar? I been trying to get my head around gearing and all examples are I find are for touring cars?
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:25 PM   #1119
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I was out driving my Xray X10 link with the 5,5T motor and the mamba Max Pro when all of a sudden it cuts out and failsafes onto the gras....
Dead!!
Motor not hot.
ESC NOT Hot.
battery NOT hot.
No cable broken (that I can see)
Tryed another battery same thing no responce at all.
Nothing happens when trying to switch it on.

It is now to late in the evening to examine som I will look into it tomorrow and investigate if the switch has gone bad, otherwise it is a broken ESC?

sad sad times!
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:46 AM   #1120
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Hi
I was out driving my Xray X10 link with the 5,5T motor and the mamba Max Pro when all of a sudden it cuts out and failsafes onto the gras....
Dead!!
Motor not hot.
ESC NOT Hot.
battery NOT hot.
No cable broken (that I can see)
Tryed another battery same thing no responce at all.
Nothing happens when trying to switch it on.

It is now to late in the evening to examine som I will look into it tomorrow and investigate if the switch has gone bad, otherwise it is a broken ESC?

sad sad times!
I have now in the light of day measured some on the ESC with my voltmeter and if I measure the voltage over the switch it is 8. something volts..
if I then move the switch to 'ON' position the voltage stays at 8. something volts so it is most likely a broken switch...
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:02 AM   #1121
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I don't get to run brushless as much as would like with my touring car so wanted to see if anyone noticed what I see happening on my car.

When I get to the end of a a long straightaway and let off the the throttle all the way I notice it seems like my car has tons of drag brake even with it turned off the speedo. It only does it at the end of any tracks long straight away and never happens in the infield. It is weird thing I have noticed. I have a few new MMP's but never put in any of my new ones to see if it just the one I use or if they all seem to do it. It also only happens if I let off all the way on the throttle but if I'm on 1/4 throttle or more I don't ever see of feel it happening.

I don't get to race but 1 time or so a month and even though I race for Castle I just don't get to do much testing to be honest so thought I would see if anyone else has this happening. Next time I run I will just put in another speedo to see if it does it with that one. Might be I need to get something fixed on my MMP.

Thanks
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:05 AM   #1122
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I don't get to run brushless as much as would like with my touring car so wanted to see if anyone noticed what I see happening on my car.

When I get to the end of a a long straightaway and let off the the throttle all the way I notice it seems like my car has tons of drag brake even with it turned off the speedo. It only does it at the end of any tracks long straight away and never happens in the infield. It is weird thing I have noticed. I have a few new MMP's but never put in any of my new ones to see if it just the one I use or if they all seem to do it. It also only happens if I let off all the way on the throttle but if I'm on 1/4 throttle or more I don't ever see of feel it happening.

I don't get to race but 1 time or so a month and even though I race for Castle I just don't get to do much testing to be honest so thought I would see if anyone else has this happening. Next time I run I will just put in another speedo to see if it does it with that one. Might be I need to get something fixed on my MMP.

Thanks
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Brian,

Ive never noticed an excessive amount of drag brake in mine, although I do feel it has more than say tekin (the only other one im familiar with) at 0. Maybe try re-calibrating the ESC?
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I don't get to run brushless as much as would like with my touring car so wanted to see if anyone noticed what I see happening on my car.

When I get to the end of a a long straightaway and let off the the throttle all the way I notice it seems like my car has tons of drag brake even with it turned off the speedo. It only does it at the end of any tracks long straight away and never happens in the infield. It is weird thing I have noticed. I have a few new MMP's but never put in any of my new ones to see if it just the one I use or if they all seem to do it. It also only happens if I let off all the way on the throttle but if I'm on 1/4 throttle or more I don't ever see of feel it happening.

I don't get to race but 1 time or so a month and even though I race for Castle I just don't get to do much testing to be honest so thought I would see if anyone else has this happening. Next time I run I will just put in another speedo to see if it does it with that one. Might be I need to get something fixed on my MMP.

Thanks
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wow..mines is doing that too..i thought it was shifting down from the rpm range..lets us know if 1 of ur other mmp does the same thing
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Brian,

Ive never noticed an excessive amount of drag brake in mine, although I do feel it has more than say tekin (the only other one im familiar with) at 0. Maybe try re-calibrating the ESC?
+1 -- recalibrating the ESC should solve the issue. If the ESC is not actually "neutral" at the neutral position, you might be getting braking when not applying brakes.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:19 PM   #1125
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+1 -- recalibrating the ESC should solve the issue. If the ESC is not actually "neutral" at the neutral position, you might be getting braking when not applying brakes.
Ok will do. I just don't get to run enough to be sure so let me test more and recalibrate everything and reset all my settings so iI can see what happens.

Thanks for the great ideas.

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