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Old 01-16-2010, 08:14 PM   #451
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Ok guys need some starting points. I just picked up a Mamba max pro.

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Try my setup and just have your FDR between 4.7-5.0 since your track is small.
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Default 13.5 xxx-cr Buggy setup

Indoor offroad setup
Clay medium to high bite track 65x40 so small track. Stock spur at 78 tooth, 21 tooth pinion. Novak 13.5 ss motor with full static timing.

Cheat mode enabled 14,000- 16,000 rpm
14 degrees of timing.
start power low
FDR 9.02
motor temp @ 75 degrees tons on punch and motor rips on the short straights.

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Old 01-17-2010, 07:48 AM   #454
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Try my setup and just have your FDR between 4.7-5.0 since your track is small.
Thanks Jochim.
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so anybody know first hand yet how the mmp compares to a properly set-up tekin v.203 ? let us know what is up im waiting for my new mmp to arrive and i ran my tekin yesterday and it was a missile. just wondering if the mmp is faster still. and be serious .
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so anybody know first hand yet how the mmp compares to a properly set-up tekin v.203 ? let us know what is up im waiting for my new mmp to arrive and i ran my tekin yesterday and it was a missile. just wondering if the mmp is faster still. and be serious .
Hey jeff
I figure out the problem ...and now I got speed to push you car around lol
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I figure out the problem ...and now I got speed to push you car around lol
we will see about that . haha
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so to my above question, nobady has an answer?
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I'm selling my backup MMP if anyone is interested. $135shipped. PM me for details.
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so anybody know first hand yet how the mmp compares to a properly set-up tekin v.203 ? let us know what is up im waiting for my new mmp to arrive and i ran my tekin yesterday and it was a missile. just wondering if the mmp is faster still. and be serious .
at the n.e.g.s. race this past weekend, the tekin seemed to be the ticket in stock (17.5). visually, they were sick. on the clock, they appeared to be a heavy tenth faster than the mamba (using the top guys for the comparison).

personally, i was disappointed with the mamba. we couldn't make it do much more than what an spx would have given us. we collaborated with another proponent of the mmp, and he gave us his setup and a backup motor to use it on. still, no-go, in terms of being earth shattering.

incidentally, we did get it figured out pretty well in 13.5, though. at least for short indoor tracks...
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at the n.e.g.s. race this past weekend, the tekin seemed to be the ticket in stock (17.5). visually, they were sick. on the clock, they appeared to be a heavy tenth faster than the mamba (using the top guys for the comparison).

personally, i was disappointed with the mamba. we couldn't make it do much more than what an spx would have given us. we collaborated with another proponent of the mmp, and he gave us his setup and a backup motor to use it on. still, no-go, in terms of being earth shattering.

incidentally, we did get it figured out pretty well in 13.5, though. at least for short indoor tracks...
what motor in 17.5 are you using? Also was it just top speed or was it low end power that the Tekin had on the MMP?
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I don't know guys but my mamba max pro is faster than the telin with ver. 203 firmware...
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what motor in 17.5 are you using? Also was it just top speed or was it low end power that the Tekin had on the MMP?
for the record, i didn't run it (nor did i run stock). but my backup car was, essentially, built/tuned by me as an identical car to be run in stock. and in doing this, the pilot (michael c. wise) requested a mmp for it (prior to finding out v203 was legit). so, with that said ...

we ran a duo and a duo2. james reilly also ran this combination. sydor tq'ed with the tekin, and reilly and wise qualified 2nd/3rd respectively with the mambas.

to answer your question, the advantage appeared to be all over the track. definitely in top end, but sydor had the low end at least matched as well. now, don't get me wrong, sydor can wheel and earned his win all by himself. (he's tq'ed every leg thus far). plus all three of them drove a different chassis (phi, t3, mi4), which is another variable, but there were a few standout cars that looked like they should have been running in superstock. to my knowledge, each of those had a tekin in them.

we have another leg at fastcats in a month. i'd like to have both units in the car between now and then generating some real data ...
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I don't know guys but my mamba max pro is faster than the telin with ver. 203 firmware...
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your RPM is set too high you will loose your bottom end since the motor needs too spool up to 14000 RMP before the timing boost kicks in

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Clay medium to high bite track 65x40 so small track. Stock spur at 78 tooth, 21 tooth pinion. Novak 13.5 ss motor with full static timing.

Cheat mode enabled 14,000- 16,000 rpm
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start power low
FDR 9.02
motor temp @ 75 degrees tons on punch and motor rips on the short straights.
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