Pro 10: 235mm Le Mans Prototype Pan Car Discussion
#871
I have seen all kinds of designs do very good. In the end a mono shock, damper tubes or side shocks are a personal thing. I prefer tubes as they are easy to work with for me personaly. Others prefer sideshocks or a monoshock.
#872
ist a RC10L..? i have one and want to put on track..i see some parts not original on this car,ist from RC10R5? the mount of central shock ? dumper tube?
Thanks
#873
It was originally an RC10L2.
Now we call it the RC10L2.5
The center shock mount is for L-cars, just not an Associated part. The damper-tubes are from BMI as I recall correctly. Upper pod plate is an aftermarket part made for the L2. It also has CRC blue podplates and an IRS rear axle.
Although the car is aged, it still runs top 3 at most of it's races against newer cars like the CRC, Serpent & Xray's.
Simply because Team Associated has set a benchmark in pancar geometry when they came out with the L2. That is also why I still use this exact same geometry in my custom build cars... It works!!!
Now we call it the RC10L2.5
The center shock mount is for L-cars, just not an Associated part. The damper-tubes are from BMI as I recall correctly. Upper pod plate is an aftermarket part made for the L2. It also has CRC blue podplates and an IRS rear axle.
Although the car is aged, it still runs top 3 at most of it's races against newer cars like the CRC, Serpent & Xray's.
Simply because Team Associated has set a benchmark in pancar geometry when they came out with the L2. That is also why I still use this exact same geometry in my custom build cars... It works!!!
#874
ok thanks
the upper plat ist like rc10l touring...my first idea ist use a VCS shock but probably dumper tube is more easy to set....on italy found the CRC...
Think the centarl schock support ist hard to found...the ammo is a TRF?
If want to sell ...remember me
the upper plat ist like rc10l touring...my first idea ist use a VCS shock but probably dumper tube is more easy to set....on italy found the CRC...
Think the centarl schock support ist hard to found...the ammo is a TRF?
If want to sell ...remember me
#875
He won't sell... Trust me
#876
...i know.....
start to search the parts.....
start to search the parts.....
#877
joost is correct.
Chassis- rc10l2
Damper tubes- BMI
Blue podplates- CRC
Blue adjustable schockmount- KSG Motorsports
Axle and hubs - IRS
Top podplate- Powell Racing Components (PRC) but is out of business.
The KSG shockmount fits 1:1. It uses the exact same screw paterns as the original plastic one. It looks trick and has the same blue anodising as Team Associated. I must admit though, I always ran the shock at the lowest position and talking to MarkA recently he did the same (a good driver that drove the L2 very succesfully in the US). That is why last month i swapped it again for the original black plastic shockmount. The black plastic mount is a little lighter (only a few grams though) and it looks cleaner without 2 blue post sticking up. I would advice not to buy it. It is quite expensive and you don't need the setup options.
I used a tamiya TRF damper before but i had some problems with it while using the Team Associated silver spring.
I am using a Team Associated TC VCS shock now. It came with the KSG oval car I bought a long time ago. (the KSG shockmount also came from that car) http://www.teamassociated.ch/article...cle=1000007489. I still use the original L2 piston and shock cap etc.
Throw the associated O-rings away and use Kyosho red grooved O-rings. A very good tip i got from MarkA. It works smooth so far without leaking and i can set my pod droop, sag and preload through a wide range when raking the chassis backwards or forwards. Something i had problems with when using the tamiya shock and silver spring. It was giving me too much preload in certain setups.
On the crc website it shows that the CRC podplates come with CRC engraved at the back of the left podplate. When i bought the blue set off ebay 4-5 years or so ago the podplates didn't have the CRC engraved when i received it (was pleasently surprised it came without the CRC engraving) so not sure if the new plates come with or without CRC engraving. I bought the red CRC podplates as well and they didn't come with any engraving either so maybe worth to mail crc about it. Then it doesn't come as a surprise if it comes with CRC at the back.
And no i will never sell my car.
Chassis- rc10l2
Damper tubes- BMI
Blue podplates- CRC
Blue adjustable schockmount- KSG Motorsports
Axle and hubs - IRS
Top podplate- Powell Racing Components (PRC) but is out of business.
The KSG shockmount fits 1:1. It uses the exact same screw paterns as the original plastic one. It looks trick and has the same blue anodising as Team Associated. I must admit though, I always ran the shock at the lowest position and talking to MarkA recently he did the same (a good driver that drove the L2 very succesfully in the US). That is why last month i swapped it again for the original black plastic shockmount. The black plastic mount is a little lighter (only a few grams though) and it looks cleaner without 2 blue post sticking up. I would advice not to buy it. It is quite expensive and you don't need the setup options.
I used a tamiya TRF damper before but i had some problems with it while using the Team Associated silver spring.
I am using a Team Associated TC VCS shock now. It came with the KSG oval car I bought a long time ago. (the KSG shockmount also came from that car) http://www.teamassociated.ch/article...cle=1000007489. I still use the original L2 piston and shock cap etc.
Throw the associated O-rings away and use Kyosho red grooved O-rings. A very good tip i got from MarkA. It works smooth so far without leaking and i can set my pod droop, sag and preload through a wide range when raking the chassis backwards or forwards. Something i had problems with when using the tamiya shock and silver spring. It was giving me too much preload in certain setups.
On the crc website it shows that the CRC podplates come with CRC engraved at the back of the left podplate. When i bought the blue set off ebay 4-5 years or so ago the podplates didn't have the CRC engraved when i received it (was pleasently surprised it came without the CRC engraving) so not sure if the new plates come with or without CRC engraving. I bought the red CRC podplates as well and they didn't come with any engraving either so maybe worth to mail crc about it. Then it doesn't come as a surprise if it comes with CRC at the back.
And no i will never sell my car.
Last edited by 2wdrive; 06-26-2012 at 05:12 AM.
#879
Could be Mathijs but Roy and I also use IRS podplates on our cars and there is a difference in finish between my podplates and Alexander's.
Check them out this weekend, you will see.
Check them out this weekend, you will see.
#880
The CRC motorplate has some small fins to the side presumably to dissapate heat a little better. The ride height adjusters in the IRS left plate fall outside the plate so the adjuster on the left doesn't get supported 100%.
CRC anodised the plates and presumably afterwards milled some small parts again. The milled parts are bare aluminium wich makes a very nice contrast against the collored anodising. Overall it seems there is just a bit more attention to detail and craftmanship involved with the CRC plates.
CRC anodised the plates and presumably afterwards milled some small parts again. The milled parts are bare aluminium wich makes a very nice contrast against the collored anodising. Overall it seems there is just a bit more attention to detail and craftmanship involved with the CRC plates.
#881
I could be wrong but the only plates I have seen with CRC engraved on are the ones for their own cars, not ones made for AE.
#882
Not sure if we talk about the same plates but the crc plates i mean are
crc 4241 - Lowred Rear Pod Plates-Blue http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/images/em...media/4241.jpg
2.5 years ago i bought
crc 4240 - Lowred Rear Pod Plates-Red http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/images/em...media/4240.jpg
The CRC Pantoura (190mm pancar) used the same bulkheads as the L2. CRC made the aftermarket plates in red, blue and plain alu. As you can see in the picture on the CRC website it is engraved. When i received them they arrived in original nib CRC packaging. Maybe they changed the production to include the crc engraving later on. I prefer no engraving btw.
The two cars i use the crc podplates for, as you can see no engraving. (red car is under construction)
sorry for the big pictures
crc 4241 - Lowred Rear Pod Plates-Blue http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/images/em...media/4241.jpg
2.5 years ago i bought
crc 4240 - Lowred Rear Pod Plates-Red http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/images/em...media/4240.jpg
The CRC Pantoura (190mm pancar) used the same bulkheads as the L2. CRC made the aftermarket plates in red, blue and plain alu. As you can see in the picture on the CRC website it is engraved. When i received them they arrived in original nib CRC packaging. Maybe they changed the production to include the crc engraving later on. I prefer no engraving btw.
The two cars i use the crc podplates for, as you can see no engraving. (red car is under construction)
sorry for the big pictures
Last edited by 2wdrive; 06-27-2012 at 09:43 AM.
#883
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Woahhhhh nice looking car you have there
Great work you put in there.
Just like Joost his car it is a fine piece of design and craftmanship.
Wished i had the tools and skills to do this
Have some things in my head but can't put it in the right files so some one can mill it for me.
regards Roy
Great work you put in there.
Just like Joost his car it is a fine piece of design and craftmanship.
Wished i had the tools and skills to do this
Have some things in my head but can't put it in the right files so some one can mill it for me.
regards Roy
#884
Sweet, I love the turnbuckle in the shock end. I can't believe I have never seen that before, so simple yet so useful.
#885
Similar layout
My 1993 RC10L wide is layout very similar. I'll post some pix when I get 10 posts under my belt. I tried to keep all components on the center line of the chassis. I also use the LiPo saddle packs with a 13.5 Losi sensored motor. I would liike to try the damper tubes. Does anyone know where I can get them?