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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by spence88mph
Thanks 2wdrive, I sent them an email seeing if they have any left, otherwise I can draw one up and get it cut I guess, what are the side shock tubes? I haven't seen them, it would be nice to get rid of the friction plates and post. Sorry for copying your car so much! I was going to do the RC10L2.5 side shocks but getting the top and bottom RC10L3 plates is pretty hard and I don't really like all the axel spacing.
PRC is out of business so not sure if you will get a mail back.

The tubes are from BMI with the ballcups shortend on both sides to make them fit for the L2. The crc genx10 tubes are a direct fit but they are red so not really suited for a blue car.

The prc topplate was a much easier and cheaper option to make it into a L2.5 and indeed i too didn't like all the axle spacers. You can still use shocks with this modification but i prefer the tubes and t-bar screws.

If you want to make one yourself then Hobbyking sells cheap carbon plates in different thickness. The size and quality of those plates is perfect for making small parts like topplates etc.

The RC10L2.5 is not my idea so copy as much as possible as i do the same if i see a good idea. I copied it from MarkA as he made the article for the rc10l2.5 and thank PRC for comming up with that topplate
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:48 AM
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Default I made pro 10 use Yokomo R12.

Hello.
I'm Hoon Sung live in South Korea.
I made pro 10 use Yokomo R12.
I designed 1/10 size new chassis and carbon parts.

-specification-
Wheelbase : 255mm (±3mm)
Front width : 215mm (±2mm)
Rear width : 230mm (±5mm)

LRP X12 5.0T
LRP SXX Competition V2 with heatshink and fan. (feel : 1, boost : 0)
AcornRacing 7.4V 6000mAh 45C 2S Lipo battery

anyway.
but.. It has some problems.
spur gear is broken every run.
I used 48P spur and pinion gears.
please let me know good gearing spur tooth and pinion tooth.
I drive on asphalt circuit.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:17 AM
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Good idea and nice car.

If you haven't done it already, remove the rear axle shims and see if the spur problem goes away. It is highly probable that the spurs are being destroyed by the axle vibrations caused by the 5.0t brushless motor pushing the spur away from the pinion and the vibrations caused by driving the car.

The big distance between the bearings and the spur/tires is probably the culprit. (or to say it differently, the pod you use is not wide enough and the bearings aren't supporting the axle good enough for the power you want to use) If the above is the problem then either drive with a smaller width at the back or make the pod wider withouth using all those shims.

A 5.0t motor really needs a very sturdy pod so you might want to look into making a sturdier pod.

Kimbrough spurs are good spurs but try the above first.

Curious....how did you extend the piston for the shock between the front suspension?

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Old 01-01-2012, 02:16 PM
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Pro 10: 235mm Le Mans Prototype Pan Car Discussion-mail.jpegJust got done running a 1990 10L graphite on saturday at Timezone II. They set up an oval on the carpet..
Ran the car in outlaw, with graphite T bar. 10.5 brushless, 2 cell..
Fastest lap was 3.90.
Im hoping Mark posts the race stuff on the TZ thread in northwest thread.
Car was ballistic.
In the main switched to a 13.5 and ran 4.1s. Also the main was 75 laps. So it didnt take long. LOL
They show a pic of the oval on rc tech.
This is a really sweet track. Check it out on Timezone.com. Click on timezone II.

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Originally Posted by Hoon Sung

LRP X12 5.0T
LRP SXX Competition V2 with heatshink and fan. (feel : 1, boost : 0)
AcornRacing 7.4V 6000mAh 45C 2S Lipo battery

anyway.
but.. It has some problems.
spur gear is broken every run.
I used 48P spur and pinion gears.
please let me know good gearing spur tooth and pinion tooth.
I drive on asphalt circuit.
Well...IMHO I believe your major issue is called X12 5.0...

Using a Pro 10 with that motor/voltage (battery) will probably lead to massive amount of power to the gear...

I'd use some more reasonable motor... maybe a 13.5
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:47 PM
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What "2wdrive" says, build a wider motorpod, the force that is put on de axle is to big and it will bent under these kind of forces.
With a wider motorpod this problem will be solved.

In germany many people run 6t delta motors with wide motorpods without having this problem.


Originally Posted by Hoon Sung
Hello.
I'm Hoon Sung live in South Korea.
I made pro 10 use Yokomo R12.
I designed 1/10 size new chassis and carbon parts.

-specification-
Wheelbase : 255mm (±3mm)
Front width : 215mm (±2mm)
Rear width : 230mm (±5mm)

LRP X12 5.0T
LRP SXX Competition V2 with heatshink and fan. (feel : 1, boost : 0)
AcornRacing 7.4V 6000mAh 45C 2S Lipo battery

anyway.
but.. It has some problems.
spur gear is broken every run.
I used 48P spur and pinion gears.
please let me know good gearing spur tooth and pinion tooth.
I drive on asphalt circuit.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:21 AM
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For a 5T star motor or 6 delta you need one of these:

http://www.rcdevil.de/html/pc10h3xw_-_1-10_pan_car.html
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Here a video with an Rcdevil PC10H3X and a 6 delta motor:

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
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Hello~ guys.
Thanks for replies.
I think, I've found the answer.
I should design new pod.
I'll open the new pod design soon.

The front suspension is an extension of the HS (skh-51) pin made ​​using.
Remove the original shock shaft and was equipped with an extended shaft.
Front stabilizer in the same way I did two.

and then Could you let me know good gearing spur tooth and pinion tooth using on LRP X12 5.0T, 2s Lipo.
I am using translator, and I do not know English so strange. I'm sorry.
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Originally Posted by rokosam
Here a video with an Rcdevil PC10H3X and a 6 delta motor:

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
Rcdevil is sweet but I don't see why it would handle a motor better than another wide pod car. The front end just looks like a set-up nightmare to me. Do 235mm CRC cars have this issue too?
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CRC 235 mm is based in carbon fiber extensions, and hub extensions for the rear diff, not the best way for modified motors I think.

RCdevil fron axle is not as difficult to set-up as it seems, not more complicated than a touring car set-up.
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Try something like this(see pic)
This one is done by Joost.K and it drives great.
The left car has a IRS axle with the stock side plates and a wide rear pod.
The right car in the pic has a IRS axle and IRS side pode plates and a wider pod.
You could do something similar with your rear pod.

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Originally Posted by Hoon Sung
Hello~ guys.
Thanks for replies.
I think, I've found the answer.
I should design new pod.
I'll open the new pod design soon.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Darrell Skelton
Attachment 855588Just got done running a 1990 10L graphite on saturday at Timezone II. They set up an oval on the carpet..
Ran the car in outlaw, with graphite T bar. 10.5 brushless, 2 cell..
Fastest lap was 3.90.
Im hoping Mark posts the race stuff on the TZ thread in northwest thread.
Car was ballistic.
In the main switched to a 13.5 and ran 4.1s. Also the main was 75 laps. So it didnt take long. LOL
They show a pic of the oval on rc tech.
This is a really sweet track. Check it out on Timezone.com. Click on timezone II.
www.timezone.com goes to a swiss watch manufacturer. googled http://www.timezoneracing.com/ ..... nice indoor track. The outdoor track looks even better.
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Default Some play in steering

Preparing my PC10H3X for a next race, I have observed today some little play in the steering (I have been using my 416X last months). Is not a problem with wheels but the big 5.8 mm ball nuts which are not totally fixed and spin themselves. Is this intented or a problem?
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Originally Posted by 2wdrive
www.timezone.com goes to a swiss watch manufacturer. googled http://www.timezoneracing.com/ ..... nice indoor track. The outdoor track looks even better.
Sorry your right Timezoneracing.com.
Yeah the outdoor track is in Battleground, WA..
A couple years ago. They ran the 235 cars there. And there was one ( Andy's car a 10L ) that was as fast as 1/8 scale onroad cars.
The indoor track ran the X-Ray Challenge about 3 weeks ago.
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