Measuring Droop
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Measuring Droop
Ok my TC pros I have always measured droop with the Losi or Associated gauge. My friend measures his with uptravel over ride height for instance 2mm is what he uses (Using 6mm ride height). How do you guys do it and if you use the ride height version do me a favor if you have a gauge and measure it my way to see what it converts to. I did, want to see if I am right. By the way not a nube just never really did the ride height way thinking bout changing.
thanks Rod
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Last edited by RKeasler; 08-30-2009 at 06:34 AM.
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Ok my TC pros I have always measured droop with the Losi or Associated guage. My friend measures his with uptravel over ride height for instance 2mm is what he uses (Using 6mm ride height). How do you guys do it and if you use the ride height version do me a favor if you have a guage and measure it my way to see what it converts to. I did, want to see if I am right. By the way not a nube just never really did the ride height way thinking bout changing.
thanks Rod
thanks Rod
#4
My opinion is using gauges is the most accurate way of setting the droop. But at the track when there is little time between rounds on a club night I will resort to the ride-height method if I want to make a quick adjustment.
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Did the Dave Jun method and then measured with the gauge to see what the corresponding number was. Think I like his method for intial setup and then gauge after that. Juns method really forces you to square up your car.
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Rod..
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
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Rod..
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
just a little too aggressive on old tires which won't be a problem next week. Droop is just one more tuning option I need to master, see you Saturday.
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It also helps compare car to car.
Each to his own as long as you can compare and adjust your car accurately then you are doing what you need.
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Rod..
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
What I do and learned from Jason Schreffler works great. Set ride height first. Then take pointer finger and hold tire down on corner being checked while using middle fingure and thumb and raise chassie till it stops naturally. While at end of cars travel use other hand and slide RH gauge under checking RH/droop. My car I set to 6mm rear ride height and 9mm while lifting to check droop, giving me 3 mm droop over ride height. Same for front. When I do every so often check on droop/chassie blocks there usally dead on equal or very close.
Come see me Saturday I will show ya in person.....
Rod
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You measure droop with a ruler. How far up the chassis travels before the tires leave the ground. THAT is droop. What you are discussing, is the car's downstop setting, which is the difference in millimeteres between the bottom of the suspension arm, and the chassis. They are not the same thing.
Ride height = how far the chassis is off the ground
Downstops = distance from the chassis to the bottom of the suspension arm
Droop = how far the chassis lifts before the tires lift
Droop is a result of both ride height, and downstops.
Ride height = how far the chassis is off the ground
Downstops = distance from the chassis to the bottom of the suspension arm
Droop = how far the chassis lifts before the tires lift
Droop is a result of both ride height, and downstops.
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You measure droop with a ruler. How far up the chassis travels before the tires leave the ground. THAT is droop. What you are discussing, is the car's downstop setting, which is the difference in millimeteres between the bottom of the suspension arm, and the chassis. They are not the same thing.
Ride height = how far the chassis is off the ground
Downstops = distance from the chassis to the bottom of the suspension arm
Droop = how far the chassis lifts before the tires lift
Droop is a result of both ride height, and downstops.
Ride height = how far the chassis is off the ground
Downstops = distance from the chassis to the bottom of the suspension arm
Droop = how far the chassis lifts before the tires lift
Droop is a result of both ride height, and downstops.
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I think the moral of the thread is as follows:
- If you need to compare one car to another, you should measure how much you can lift your car before the tires come off the ground.
- If you just need repeatable setting results for your own car, a gauge that measures up to the lowest point on your suspension will work just fine.
- If you need to compare one car to another, you should measure how much you can lift your car before the tires come off the ground.
- If you just need repeatable setting results for your own car, a gauge that measures up to the lowest point on your suspension will work just fine.