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Old 07-21-2012, 01:52 AM   #1831
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Is anyone interested in using a side spring mod using Associated springs etc...

I couldn't get CRC stuff so did what I could with what I could get... seems to work
Done just that. Used Associated plastic spring mount and currently Associated Blue side springs. Works just fine indoors and out.
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Done just that. Used Associated plastic spring mount and currently Associated Blue side springs. Works just fine indoors and out.
How are you finding it with the blue springs? how does it feel on the track?
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:14 PM   #1834
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We have one F109 racer among a field of 20 - 26 cars. It is holding its own.

From our last Saturday race.



Finished 5th overall.



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Old 07-25-2012, 01:21 PM   #1835
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How are you finding it with the blue springs? how does it feel on the track?
Really good...both on carpet and tarmac. When the rear does slide on tarmac, it is pretty progressive.
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Really good...both on carpet and tarmac. When the rear does slide on tarmac, it is pretty progressive.
I am still trying to understand how side springs affect the handling... I went straight to the AE Gold because I was trying to stop the pod collapsing to each side as it went around corners but now I am trying to change how the car transitions from corner entry to corner exit
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Anyone know if xray gears/diff rings will work on this car? I mean like the basic diff setup from their 1/12 car bolted on the F109.
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Anyone know if xray gears/diff rings will work on this car? I mean like the basic diff setup from their 1/12 car bolted on the F109.
Simple answer is no...
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simple answers are the best! thanks

on that note, are there an diff setups to switch to better than the one it comes with?

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simple answers are the best! thanks

on that note, are there an diff setups to switch to better than the one it comes with?
You could try the 3racing out tuned ball diff OR the tamiya stock f104 diff, both for the f104, but you would need the f104 rear axle for it to work. The tamiya and 3 racing diffs allow you to change the rear tires without having to reset the diff every time like you do on the stock f109.
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You could try the 3racing out tuned ball diff OR the tamiya stock f104 diff, both for the f104, but you would need the f104 rear axle for it to work. The tamiya and 3 racing diffs allow you to change the rear tires without having to reset the diff every time like you do on the stock f109.
I wouldnt get the 3racing out tuned diff as it just doesnt feel as smooth as the Tamiya what ever you do and it just didnt tune right either and once I went Tamiya diff it was a different car..well F1
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I wouldnt get the 3racing out tuned diff as it just doesnt feel as smooth as the Tamiya what ever you do and it just didnt tune right either and once I went Tamiya diff it was a different car..well F1
Well that's one of those weird things as I've had the exact opposite experience ... the 3racing out tuned diff works brilliantly for me while the F104 Pro diff has been so problematic it finally went into the bin at my last race meeting

The only mod I would suggest for the out tuned is switching the alloy spacer for thrust washers... seems to work HEAPS better
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The 3 Racing spur gear adaptor (actually just a delrin ring) means I can run 12th scale spur gears. Kimborough mostly, and I've made a 64dp spur last a summer season of outdoor racing on my F109.

I have also stuck with the F109 kit diff. Years of pan car racing means I can set it up quicky when I change wheels. And had not problem with diff feel or durability.

Mind you not tried some of the other options listed.
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The 3 Racing spur gear adaptor (actually just a delrin ring) means I can run 12th scale spur gears. Kimborough mostly, and I've made a 64dp spur last a summer season of outdoor racing on my F109
Actually I forgot about the little adapter ring when I was thinking about Xray spurs as I've switched to using the Kawada spurs so I can use the extra diff balls....

... but the xray diff rings still wouldn't fit as that is totally different to the 3racing/Tamiya rings

As an after thought which grease are most using on the diffs?... I am just not happy with the ones I am using at the moment (Tamiya and 3racing)
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As an after thought which grease are most using on the diffs?... I am just not happy with the ones I am using at the moment (Tamiya and 3racing)
Still using the small tube of Associated Stealth grease I bought ages ago.
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