Opinions on TC's
#16
Without trying to sound blunt, the only person who knows which car is best for them is the one who will be racing with it.
The tc5 may be a better option as you will have the correct size allen drivers to use on it.
But as said before, I would look out as to what is stocked well locally in case you need parts.
The tc5 may be a better option as you will have the correct size allen drivers to use on it.
But as said before, I would look out as to what is stocked well locally in case you need parts.
On topic, as far as I can tell there is not a massive performance gap between any of the popular chassis'. The major difference is, as others have said, how good the support is, not only for spare parts but for setups and help.
However if there is a car you really like the look of, but there is no support locally don't despair as I have been doing quite well using this forum for setups/tips and online next day delivery sites for spare parts (since I have no LHS)
Regards
Neal
#17
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I understand most of the points you guys raise, but in terms of track performance, the AWESOMATIX is far ahead of the competition. I would rather wait a while for perfection than jump the gun and get less !!! If you own a tc4 right now,upgrading it is much more cost effective than getting any of these new belt kits!!! I would hope that the lack of enthusiasm about the AWESOMATIX is not caused by the fact that it's a RUSSIAN design !!! Had ASSOCIATED or X-ray design that car, I am pretty sure you would all agree with me!!!!!!!!!!! TIMES HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL. DONT HATE, EMBRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I understand most of the points you guys raise, but in terms of track performance, the AWESOMATIX is far ahead of the competition. I would rather wait a while for perfection than jump the gun and get less !!! If you own a tc4 right now,upgrading it is much more cost effective than getting any of these new belt kits!!! I would hope that the lack of enthusiasm about the AWESOMATIX is not caused by the fact that it's a RUSSIAN design !!! Had ASSOCIATED or X-ray design that car, I am pretty sure you would all agree with me!!!!!!!!!!! TIMES HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL. DONT HATE, EMBRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#19
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I understand most of the points you guys raise, but in terms of track performance, the AWESOMATIX is far ahead of the competition. I would rather wait a while for perfection than jump the gun and get less !!! If you own a tc4 right now,upgrading it is much more cost effective than getting any of these new belt kits!!! I would hope that the lack of enthusiasm about the AWESOMATIX is not caused by the fact that it's a RUSSIAN design !!! Had ASSOCIATED or X-ray design that car, I am pretty sure you would all agree with me!!!!!!!!!!! TIMES HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL. DONT HATE, EMBRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not hating on the car it looks neat, but to me shaft drive sucks when you start putting power to the car with a high power motor. They ALL torquesteer. Belt cars just handle better, thats why Associated went away from the shaft. And the TC4 was crap when it came out, the team drivers at Cleveland went back to the TC3 in the middle of qualifiing when it came out.
As for what car I recommend for rubber: Tamiya 416WE, X-Ray 008-009 EU, or Schumacher's. Since you are close to Schumacher and their team drivers, that would be the choice I would make. Here in St. Louis we have Drew Ellis racing locally so it is mostly X-Rays. It is really nice to have a factory driver to get input from when needed.
#20
Without trying to sound blunt, the only person who knows which car is best for them is the one who will be racing with it.
The tc5 may be a better option as you will have the correct size allen drivers to use on it.
But as said before, I would look out as to what is stocked well locally in case you need parts.
The tc5 may be a better option as you will have the correct size allen drivers to use on it.
But as said before, I would look out as to what is stocked well locally in case you need parts.
#21
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Thank you for your repliys . As i said eairler Schumacher USA is only 30 min from my house . The LHS in my area dont really stock much TC parts just mainly the basic stuff like arms & knuckles for the tc5 . I would say there is a even mix of tc5's & mi3.5's & the xray car at my track . The 3.5 & 5r would be eaiser to get parts for . I guess i just have to make a desicion .
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First,there are no crazy people here!!! I personally dont own an AWESOMATIX, AND I AM TRUSTING IN THE EXPERT OPINION of guys like Martin Hudy who have witnessed for themselves the untouchable performance of the AWESOMATIX vehicles(one with a shaft drive, and a second one with a belt drive) ,particularly at the 2007 Rebellion Race in Finland!!! Hudy himself admitted that they(both awesomatix cars), at least in supersport,were untouchable on his website and against the best competition in the world !!! In addition, the shaft drive version always beat the belt version hands down,from the Russian championships on !!! Finally all the problems(torquesteer,etc..) the traditional shaft cars suffered from have been eliminated: the main purpose of developing the AWESOMATIX was to solve these issues, and they have successfully solved them !!! It is only a matter of time before other companies like X-ray and ASSOCIATED start making the same engineering modifications in their cars, so they wont be left behind...IF you like being left behind, go ahead and buy more of the same: 416WE,T2,PHOTON,TC5,CYCLONE,etc....LEAD, DONT FOLLOW!!!!!!!!
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First,there are no crazy people here!!! I personally dont own an AWESOMATIX, AND I AM TRUSTING IN THE EXPERT OPINION of guys like Martin Hudy who have witnessed for themselves the untouchable performance of the AWESOMATIX vehicles(one with a shaft drive, and a second one with a belt drive) ,particularly at the 2007 Rebellion Race in Finland!!! Hudy himself admitted that they(both awesomatix cars), at least in supersport,were untouchable on his website and against the best competition in the world !!!
#25
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The AWESOMATIX belt version is very similar to an X-ray, except for the rotary dampers!!! Some might feel there is no need to switch to these low CG dampers,but I feel if you insist on a belt car, than a belt AWESOMATIX would be better than anything else out there. I don't think AWESOMATIX is even considering a belt drive, knowing how superior the shaft version is!!! The point is shaft is superior to belt! That's why real race cars use them instead of belts! It's very hard for people to accept defeit even if it's obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#26
Does anyone know if a traxpower lipo will fit in a MI-3.5 with out mods ?
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I understand most of the points you guys raise, but in terms of track performance, the AWESOMATIX is far ahead of the competition. I would rather wait a while for perfection than jump the gun and get less !!! If you own a tc4 right now,upgrading it is much more cost effective than getting any of these new belt kits!!! I would hope that the lack of enthusiasm about the AWESOMATIX is not caused by the fact that it's a RUSSIAN design !!! Had ASSOCIATED or X-ray design that car, I am pretty sure you would all agree with me!!!!!!!!!!! TIMES HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL. DONT HATE, EMBRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey I like shaft cars but you need real world results not winning against racers 99% of the world has no clue who they are.
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Hippie if I was in your shoes I to would go for the Schumacher Mi3 or if you can the new MI4. Shawn and Adam at Schumacher have excellent customer service and parts in Florida are super easy to come by. Great choice.
I run a TC5R and for me since i work at a hobbyshop Associated parts are super easy to get from many distributors that almost every hobbyshop orders from and then the parts are super cheap. Its a good car and cheap to run.
I always tell people go with what you like because in the end you have to pay for it and race it. If you don't like what you picked before you get it you will never like the car in the first place no matter how good of a car it might be.
I run a TC5R and for me since i work at a hobbyshop Associated parts are super easy to get from many distributors that almost every hobbyshop orders from and then the parts are super cheap. Its a good car and cheap to run.
I always tell people go with what you like because in the end you have to pay for it and race it. If you don't like what you picked before you get it you will never like the car in the first place no matter how good of a car it might be.
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