Oh I didnt think they are crap. They seem to work pretty darn well in both my slash and my tc4. Hopefully they will work equally as well in my type r. As long as I can get the type r to work period. If I where to pick up more packs it would probably be the 2s version of the new thunder power pack which Im running in my ofna. Amazing punch coming from that pack.
With the layshaft upgrade I wont have to worry about fitment issues? And it seems that it really snugs up the pulleys by getting rid of the eclips. Seems like a great upgrade. Still have to figure out gearing though.