Why rubber,...not foam?
#1
Why rubber,...not foam?
I used to run nitro on foams, now I'm starting to think about running electric and noticed that most guys at the track run rubber. Why?
#4
Tech Master
The major downside to foam tires is that as their diameter decreases you must raise the rideheight and have to worry about many other things. We you can run rubber, do it.
#5
Not to mention foams are prone to chunking and you have to buy & carry expensive & large tire truers to maintain. way more inconvenient, high maintenance and expensive. Rubber RULES. That's why in my opinion the World GT cars are a sham. They are supposed to be low coast alternatives to TCs yet they use foams. Makes no sense.
#6
foams are not more expensive then rubber tires. They get smaller but they are more consistent throughout there usage.
#8
Tech Adept
my 2c
#9
I've tried foams that were similar in size to my rubber tires, and they did not hook up as well. It seems like when I have the right rubber tire for the right track condition, they hook up best. But, I don't have an extensive foam collection to test. I just have a few sets that kinda stumbled into my tire box.
I always thought foams got their added traction from surface area, not so much the material. At least from what I have seen in nitro and wgt, they run rear foams that are twice the width of rubber tires.
--pakk
I always thought foams got their added traction from surface area, not so much the material. At least from what I have seen in nitro and wgt, they run rear foams that are twice the width of rubber tires.
--pakk
#10
I don't think theres any need for anyone to hate on foams.
I can buy a set of 4 premounted foams cheaper than a set of premounted sorex 28, you only tend to chunk foams if you board tap a lot.
I am using 40 shore ennetti front and rear on a high bite track, additive on for the first round only, and I am good to go.
Im not saying foams are better than rubbers, or rubbers are better than foams etc etc, but you can get a car to handle well on either, and make foams last a long time, imho
I can buy a set of 4 premounted foams cheaper than a set of premounted sorex 28, you only tend to chunk foams if you board tap a lot.
I am using 40 shore ennetti front and rear on a high bite track, additive on for the first round only, and I am good to go.
Im not saying foams are better than rubbers, or rubbers are better than foams etc etc, but you can get a car to handle well on either, and make foams last a long time, imho
#12
Tech Master
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What I like about foam is that you know right away when a tire is done. Sometimes with rubber tires you will fight them for awhile before you realize they need replaced.
I can order 4 Jaco Prisms (foams) for $20 on Nexus. That's cheaper than a set of rubber tires. Plus, I bought an old Cobra truer from a friend for $40. If you can't get a hold of one, I guarantee there's someone at the track with one that'll true a set for little or no charge, or simply ask to use it yourself.
Another thing is, foam helps lay down traction. Our track is low/med traction, but we've been running stock foam for about 6 weeks or so and you can tell that the traction is starting to come up, and the "groove" develops waaaay earlier in the night than it used to.
I can order 4 Jaco Prisms (foams) for $20 on Nexus. That's cheaper than a set of rubber tires. Plus, I bought an old Cobra truer from a friend for $40. If you can't get a hold of one, I guarantee there's someone at the track with one that'll true a set for little or no charge, or simply ask to use it yourself.
Another thing is, foam helps lay down traction. Our track is low/med traction, but we've been running stock foam for about 6 weeks or so and you can tell that the traction is starting to come up, and the "groove" develops waaaay earlier in the night than it used to.
#13
On carpet anyways.. I get a good month plus out of a set of rubber tires.. Thats running twice a week I might add. The main problem with foam is you true half the damn thing away to be fast.
#14
I believe foams are used on the nitro cars because of the extra HP and weight and they hold up and last longer, a set of rubber tires in a 20 or 30 minute main would make for some interesting pitting.
my problem with foam tires is they come to dang big right out of the package and you have to cut them down, for me, this is a big psychological waste of money and tire. if the foam tires came out of the box a bit smaller i wouldn't feel like i'm wasting so much of the tire, foam tire on pavement in electric, is faster and cheaper, but as i've been told, its not traditional so we can't do it.
my problem with foam tires is they come to dang big right out of the package and you have to cut them down, for me, this is a big psychological waste of money and tire. if the foam tires came out of the box a bit smaller i wouldn't feel like i'm wasting so much of the tire, foam tire on pavement in electric, is faster and cheaper, but as i've been told, its not traditional so we can't do it.
#15
Having come from pan cars to touring cars, I like running foam tires. Contrary to what someone posted earlier, you do not have to take a truer to the track, besides, even if you do , they are not that big and bulky.(mines is just a little bigger than a battery charger)
The biggest advantage for me is the fact I can reuse wheels when the tire is gone and also , if needed, make my own compound combinations to suit track conditions.
So to that person that stated "foams suck" , I say they are awesome, if you know what your doing.
The biggest advantage for me is the fact I can reuse wheels when the tire is gone and also , if needed, make my own compound combinations to suit track conditions.
So to that person that stated "foams suck" , I say they are awesome, if you know what your doing.