R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-20-2012, 09:54 AM   #2146
Tech Addict
 
Zac_with_no_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 598
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C&B RC View Post
Washer I use is 5.25mm ID 12mm OD thickness can vary depending on how much you need. Not sure on MAX spur / pinion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzbob View Post
I can't really comment on spur/pinion(I use 64 pitch in my touring cars), but these washers will work to space out the VTA wheels... http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...id=613&id=7158 .
Or, you could use what I use, which is this: http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...nid=615&id=823 , that eliminates the need for any spacers to make the wheels clear everything....
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdwilliams1 View Post
I just decided to buy some 64p gears. I ordered an 82 spur and 50t pinion. (I had $15 in store credit at amain about to expire). I can let you know how they fit. They should be here by the end of the week.
Thank you all!

I actually think I got those wheel spacers a long time ago but I couldn't figure out where/how to fit them on. I'll deffinitly be getting those 6mm thick wheel hubs for the rear wheels.

And cdwilliams, that's the same range I was planning on going for. Was thinking on trying 46t-50t pinions. Maybe even down to 42t.. from 3.5 FDR -4 FDR..

Is 48p better for VTA? What would a good spur tooth count for 48p gears?
__________________
TA05v.II
Tamiya M-05
SC10 Brushless RTR

Last edited by Zac_with_no_K; 06-20-2012 at 10:41 AM.
Zac_with_no_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2012, 10:54 AM   #2147
Tech Master
 
cdwilliams1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth, MN
Posts: 1,055
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zac_with_no_K View Post

And cdwilliams, that's the same range I was planning on going for. Was thinking on trying 46t-50t pinions. Maybe even down to 42t.. from 3.5 FDR -4 FDR..

Is 48p better for VTA? What would a good spur tooth count for 48p gears?
48p is more durable, since the teeth are bigger. They are supposed to be easier to get a good mesh on as well, due to the size. Although I haven't tried them yet.... 64p is supposedly quieter, cooler, and more efficient. I only run indoors though on carpet though so I'm not really worried about anything making its way into the gears and chipping teeth. So I'll give it a go. I picked 82/50 to mimic my current VTA setup. It's almost exactly the same ratio even though the gears are wildly different. I'll let you know how it goes.
__________________
I race at www.mncarpetoval.com !
cdwilliams1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2012, 03:59 PM   #2148
Tech Addict
 
Zac_with_no_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 598
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdwilliams1 View Post
48p is more durable, since the teeth are bigger. They are supposed to be easier to get a good mesh on as well, due to the size. Although I haven't tried them yet.... 64p is supposedly quieter, cooler, and more efficient. I only run indoors though on carpet though so I'm not really worried about anything making its way into the gears and chipping teeth. So I'll give it a go. I picked 82/50 to mimic my current VTA setup. It's almost exactly the same ratio even though the gears are wildly different. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!

I've decided to risk it and just ordered the hubs and 64p spur and too many pinions.. Need to have my car set-up hopefully before the 30th and have a ton of work to do..

But still let me know how the pinion fits because I'm still worried about that!
__________________
TA05v.II
Tamiya M-05
SC10 Brushless RTR
Zac_with_no_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2012, 05:38 PM   #2149
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 62
Trader Rating: 25 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zac_with_no_K View Post
Thanks, what size washers would work for that?

Also, does anyone know what the largest size 64p spur and pinions will fit?

I need to order a 82t spur with 48t +/- pinions but worried the pinion would be too large..


I run a 96t spur with a 47t pinion, and have room to gear up a tooth or two. An 82t spur should net you a lot of room for larger pinions.
iasca20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #2150
Super Moderator
 
Grizzbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 3,028
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by k_bojar View Post
does anyone know if the V2 and the 416 share the same body post locations? assuming you're running the carbon rear shock tower and not the stock one??

Yes, when putting the posts ahead of the rear shock tower, they line up just the same(or at least so close, that I can't tell the difference, & I have had my v2 & 416 share bodies before). Works well.....
__________________
Bob Seay
Tamiya TRF417, TA05v.2, TRF211XM, M-05ver.2R, XRAY X12, Associated B5m Factory Lite

Go Pokes!!!
Grizzbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2012, 03:38 PM   #2151
Tech Master
 
cdwilliams1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth, MN
Posts: 1,055
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Zac,

Here's what it looks like...

48P (left 35pinion/60 spur) vs 64P (50pinion/82 spur)



and then here's how it looks mounted. There isn't much room available to get farther to the right with the motor. You might only be able to get a couple teeth smaller on the pinion.

__________________
I race at www.mncarpetoval.com !
cdwilliams1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2012, 07:06 PM   #2152
Tech Addict
 
Zac_with_no_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 598
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iasca20 View Post
I run a 96t spur with a 47t pinion, and have room to gear up a tooth or two. An 82t spur should net you a lot of room for larger pinions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdwilliams1 View Post
Zac,

Here's what it looks like...

48P (left 35pinion/60 spur) vs 64P (50pinion/82 spur)


and then here's how it looks mounted. There isn't much room available to get farther to the right with the motor. You might only be able to get a couple teeth smaller on the pinion.
Thanks guys!
__________________
TA05v.II
Tamiya M-05
SC10 Brushless RTR
Zac_with_no_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #2153
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,057
Trader Rating: 29 (97%+)
Default

hi those who have converted the ifs setup to standard, have you noticed a difference and are you lap times faster or slower, any info on this issue will help thanks
zaraz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 03:37 AM   #2154
Tech Champion
 
k_bojar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 6,926
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to k_bojar Send a message via AIM to k_bojar
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzbob View Post
Yes, when putting the posts ahead of the rear shock tower, they line up just the same(or at least so close, that I can't tell the difference, & I have had my v2 & 416 share bodies before). Works well.....
wow, thanks - but you must be running a different rear shock tower...mine are off by a good 1/4-1/2 inch in the rear...

I'm running the IFS rear tower, if that make any kind of difference
__________________
Bodies By Bean | Team Belly
k_bojar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 10:05 AM   #2155
Tech Master
 
cdwilliams1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth, MN
Posts: 1,055
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Got a new problems since putting the car back together. It pulls to the left under acceleration, but tracks straight when I let off the gas. Any ideas? Diff too tight?
__________________
I race at www.mncarpetoval.com !
cdwilliams1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 02:52 PM   #2156
Tech Regular
 
bencason's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Almost Western Maryland
Posts: 392
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zaraz View Post
hi those who have converted the ifs setup to standard, have you noticed a difference and are you lap times faster or slower, any info on this issue will help thanks
I am also interested in any response to the above request.

I have finally rounded up all the parts to accomplish the change to upright shocks. My reason for doing so is to make tuning easier. I've read the manual on tuning front shock when using IFS but think upright shocks might be simpler or offer a greater range of changes.

If there was a chance of a performance improvement, that would be very welcome.
__________________
The RC cars are in storage but not forgotten
One of these days, I'll be back to racing... somewhere
bencason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #2157
Super Moderator
 
Grizzbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 3,028
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by k_bojar View Post
wow, thanks - but you must be running a different rear shock tower...mine are off by a good 1/4-1/2 inch in the rear...

I'm running the IFS rear tower, if that make any kind of difference
Ohhh, yeah, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I have the carbon fiber rear shock tower on it(already had one from my older TA05, so when I built my v2, I moved it over), & with it, you can get the body posts to line up right....
__________________
Bob Seay
Tamiya TRF417, TA05v.2, TRF211XM, M-05ver.2R, XRAY X12, Associated B5m Factory Lite

Go Pokes!!!
Grizzbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 01:46 AM   #2158
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 18
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zaraz View Post
hi those who have converted the ifs setup to standard, have you noticed a difference and are you lap times faster or slower, any info on this issue will help thanks
I converted to upright shocks, but changed back to IFS due to not being able to get my ride height low enough (was probably up around 8 or 9 mm) on the front. I don't have any actual lap time comparison but I mainly race on asphalt and am posting times near the fastest guys at our track with the IFS setup.
When using upright shocks I had the TRF shocks on there and had the lower ball cups wound as far up the thread as possible. Even wound the thread through the lower ball cups by accident at one point to try and get the front ride height down to a decent level. Not sure if this issue would happen for everyone converting to upright shocks, but I don't see any way around it besides getting shorter (ie. crappy, non-TRF) shocks.
cain.c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 03:59 AM   #2159
Tech Elite
 
ta04evah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 2,574
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zaraz View Post
hi those who have converted the ifs setup to standard, have you noticed a difference and are you lap times faster or slower, any info on this issue will help thanks
TA-05 ver.2

For me the conversion was the best thing I done to the car.
By eliminating all the free play in the multiple linkages in the IFS setup the car is more consistent, if only the driver was the same.

I don't have any ride height issues with mine, mainly adjust it with different springs & position of where the shocks mount.

Cheers
Rob.
__________________
BSR BT-4 / Turnigy / Hobbywing / Savox / Trackstar
Castle Hill Raceway Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/121817254587521/
FatBear RC Videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjiAhwa-rk5Vas2rv5IBD4A
ta04evah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 03:48 PM   #2160
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,057
Trader Rating: 29 (97%+)
Default

I was also wondering if the tamiya 417 rear ball diff will fit the ta05 ver 2, if anyone has tried it please let me know thanks
zaraz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electric Touring / On-Road RC Screaming Wind Manila Racers 32165 10-24-2016 09:33 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:18 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net