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Old 09-14-2006, 07:30 AM   #11056
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Great suggestions.
I'm running on carpet. Yes, I have rear toe in. I was thinking about switching the springs around to see if that would make a difference. Should my set up be neutral (front to rear)?
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:32 AM   #11057
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Haha, I didn't exactly have the color sequences memorized, either. I'm not *that* big of a nut. I had to check the manual. You're probably right on the shock damping, but I figured it was easier to test the theory with shock tower positions first.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:36 AM   #11058
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Great suggestions.
I'm running on carpet. Yes, I have rear toe in. I was thinking about switching the springs around to see if that would make a difference. Should my set up be neutral (front to rear)?
What about front toe?

Swapping the F/R springs is probably a bit extreme. All other things equal, you may end up with oversteer. But that's not a bad thing on carpet. It's an easy swap, though!

If you're running foams on carpet, I would think you'd be traction rolling with a suspension that soft! What is your ride height?
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:37 AM   #11059
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Great suggestions.
I'm running on carpet. Yes, I have rear toe in. I was thinking about switching the springs around to see if that would make a difference. Should my set up be neutral (front to rear)?
I HAVE A TC3 THAT I RUN ON CARPET THATS PRETTY GOOD....
60WT FR SHOCKS WITH #3 PISTONS
PURPLE ASSOC. OR BLACK IRS SPRINGS
SHOCK POSITIONS INNER ON SUSP ARM 1 HOLE IN ON TOWER
F-0 FRONT BLOCK
40WT REAR OIL W/RED SPRINGS ASSOC. AND #2 PISTONS
OUTER HOLE ON ARM IN 1 ON TOWER
R+2+3 BLOCK IN REAR WITH AN F ON THE INSIDE BLOCK FOR 1DEGREE OF TOE
5MM RIDE HEIGHT ALL AROUND....
CAR'S GOOD.....
IF YOU WANNA PLANT THE REAR END A BIT MORE LOWER THE REAR ROLL CENTER.

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Old 09-14-2006, 07:41 AM   #11060
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i'M CONFIDENT ENOUGH IN THAT SETUP TO BE TAKING TO THE IIC IN VEGAS NEXT WEEK....
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:47 AM   #11061
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If you wanna try something entirely new, that setup Santinichi posted sounds pretty good.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:01 AM   #11062
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If you're running foams on carpet, I would think you'd be traction rolling with a suspension that soft!
So your saying that I need to go stiffer?

Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm running rubber tires on carpet.

Ride height is just above 5 mm. Front toe is maybe 1 (car is at home, I am at work)
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:04 AM   #11063
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So your saying that I need to go stiffer?

Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm running rubber tires on carpet.

Ride height is just above 5 mm. Front toe is maybe 1 (car is at home, I am at work)
setup i posted is for foams....sorry
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So your saying that I need to go stiffer?

Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm running rubber tires on carpet.

Ride height is just above 5 mm. Front toe is maybe 1 (car is at home, I am at work)
Oh ok, no - for rubber tires on carpet stick with your current base setup. I would first try moving the front shock to the middle hole. It's a quick and easy way to test the effect of softening both damping and spring rates.

I assume you've got 1 degree toe *out*, right?
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actually it's toe "in".
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:15 AM   #11066
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actually it's toe "in".
I run toe in on really big tracks to gain some high speed stability, but you'll have better turn in with 0-1 degrees toe out. Might want to wander just a little bit on very long straights though, particularly if you run mod.

Make one change at a time, though. So you know what to attribute the change to.
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X-Ray domination

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Still going strong

They are still following that 'good old' noise
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X-Ray domination

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/new...4fa0211c645359

Still going strong

They are still following that 'good old' noise
Congratulations on your win! Showing the world that the TC3 can still hang with the high dollar new cars.
I love how they referred to the TC3 as "vintage", haha...

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TC3 is still unbeatable
TC3, they still have to follow it
do you hear it?
try to follow
TC3, dutch national stock champion 2006

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TC3 is still unbeatable
TC3, they still have to follow it
do you hear it?
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TC3, dutch national stock champion 2006

I saw it,

Well done Jan!!


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