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Old 07-16-2004, 06:02 AM   #8926
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You can use either rollbars or a higher roll center to decrease roll (obviously...), but when are one preferred before the other??

(I'm sorry for double posting, but I wanted to ask the Xray guys on their opinion also so I posted my question on their thread as well.)
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Old 07-16-2004, 06:08 AM   #8927
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hey guyz my tc3 has been sittin up for a mnth now. im wondering if i go to race my car would i have to resetup my car>??!? friends telin me ill have to? so ny answers would really help.
Have tried running it??.. It your are not satified on the running performance of your TC3 then its about time to check your gearing,shocks,camber alignment, and motor etc.....

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Old 07-16-2004, 06:13 AM   #8928
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You can use either rollbars or a higher roll center to decrease roll (obviously...), but when are one preferred before the other??

(I'm sorry for double posting, but I wanted to ask the Xray guys on their opinion also so I posted my question on their thread as well.)

i suppose using a rollbar has greater effect on handling
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Old 07-16-2004, 06:19 AM   #8929
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hey guyz my tc3 has been sittin up for a mnth now. im wondering if i go to race my car would i have to resetup my car>??!? friends telin me ill have to? so ny answers would really help.

maybe its time to try another kit. in order to experience the trill of asmbling and set up. or stick with ur tc3 and re set up it again.
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Old 07-16-2004, 06:19 AM   #8930
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i suppose using a rollbar has greater effect on handling
Would that be the only difference?
I do agree that roll bars have a greater effect but I dont know of any other differences they create in handling.
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:21 AM   #8931
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Johnbull: God i wish i was at the NATS. I only have one week of vacation from work a year, so i use it to goto the Snowbirds. If i cant make the race in a normal weekend trip, then i cant go. Workin for a livin sucks. Im going to check on those dogbones, im hoping they are cheaper than the Niftech stuff.

OLEC: Both swaybars and roll center adjustments are a big change. Im assume by saying "higher roll center" you mean changing ballstud location on either shock tower. Ballstud changes are dramatic. Swaybars are not as dramatic, unless you are using a blade type, have your swaybar adjusted really tight (short lever point), or its a very thick one. The faster/easier the car transfers weight laterally on or off throttle through a corner (soft overall setup, hard driving, certain track layouts) the more noticeable a swaybar becomes. The ballstud change is felt all the time. It can alter the feel of overall stability, traction, and cornering speed. I pretty much run swaybars everywhere, except rough parkinglot tracks. Swaybars can be deceiving though, giving you the feel that the car is dialed, when it may be pushing horribly. Tire wear is an indicator here. If you shave 2mm off of your front foams in one run with little wear to the rears, you have adjusted your swaybars to overcompensate for another setting that needs to be changed. Caster angle is a popular one in this case. There is alot of speed to be found in making the car turn without "binding up" in the corners. Swaybars must work along with everything else (other settings)on the chassis... not just the reason it seems to be 'dialed'.

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Old 07-16-2004, 09:47 AM   #8932
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backyard bashing a tc-3?


Used to be I bashed my T-maxx (Then It got racified, then I bashed my rush (Racified) Then my b4 and down on the line... My newest car is generally a basher for a while, or until we get an onroad track out here.

Yes, I have quite a few buddies who just ordered TC3's as well. Our plan for this winter when its cold is , every sunday, to et up cone tracks in the huge high school gym and have weekend races....
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:02 PM   #8933
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hey john bull,

i got the yok shock caps like you said, can you tell me how you fit them up and bleed them,

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hey john bull,

i got the yok shock caps like you said, can you tell me how you fit them up and bleed them,

many thanks


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Just bleed them like you do normal shocks. They are actually easier to bleed.

If you leave them with the sponges you will get some rebound with them. If you want them to be linear on bump and rebound you can remove the sponges. I prefer them that way.

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Old 07-16-2004, 03:20 PM   #8935
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many thanks joe,

i will run them next sunday and let you know how i get on,

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Does anyone have the TC3 Rally conversion?
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hey john bull,

i got the yok shock caps like you said, can you tell me how you fit them up and bleed them,

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If you use the yok caps, you should remove the Associated sponges. Using the sponges with the Yok bladders makes your shocks feel real squishy.
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Old 07-18-2004, 12:28 AM   #8938
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Do you guys run with the stick packs or the cells? Which do you prefer?
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cells They sit lower in the chassie and you have the option of milling the chassie to move them closer to the driveshaft!
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Old 07-18-2004, 10:37 AM   #8940
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hey dotman

do you mean the ones under the piston??

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