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Old 11-15-2003, 10:18 PM   #6871
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Since the Tc3 has so much play in the stearing rack. Think what the tires are trying to do when its moving. The wheels are being pulled back because of the lever effect of the axle. I just pull the tires back while setting toe. I have steel blocks i use to hold the pressure while I measure. (that rymes) Dont push hard just a little pressure. With the rack moving around like it is I do this just so I get a consistant measurement. As soon as I get to it I am going to do the NTC3 stearing mod to my TC3.

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Old 11-15-2003, 10:21 PM   #6872
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Here is a close up notice the sharpie mark around the tire do this to both sides and measure front and back I set to e to 0' so it works good. Im not saying a huddy or integy wouldnt be better but if ya dont have one ya have to do somthing.
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:08 PM   #6873
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Again with the "design flaw". Will it ever die?!

Has anyone happened to build the TC3 with out of the box Racer specs just to see how it runs?! I never knew how crappy the stock tires and inserts were until just recently. I sure am glad we as TC racers have helped this car evolve... it is a result of competition, and countless hours of chat on threads like this one... "pro" and beginner alike.

Ill be going to the Snowbirds again this year, and was curious if anyone else on here is as well? I have been going around in my mind to build the car with or without a one-way this year. Has anyone heard if one-ways are going to be banned from the Birds? The discussion was tossed around... seeing as it isnt "full time 4WD" with a one-way installed. (when it really is full time 4wd... just not 4WD braking...) Any input would be appreciated...
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:10 PM   #6874
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Since the Tc3 has so much play in the stearing rack. Think what the tires are trying to do when its moving. The wheels are being pulled back because of the lever effect of the axle. I just pull the tires back while setting toe. I have steel blocks i use to hold the pressure while I measure. (that rymes) Dont push hard just a little pressure. With the rack moving around like it is I do this just so I get a consistant measurement. As soon as I get to it I am going to do the NTC3 stearing mod to my TC3.

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They will be forward under acceleration and back under deceleration / braking ... so you would want to measure toe under acceleration conditions?
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:38 PM   #6875
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I believe the change you are talking about is due to slop in the steering ... I have the same problem on the track ... when I turn the wheel right and then back to center, and then left and back to center they do not return to the exact same place ... close but not exact ...

A little bit of play in the steering rack combined with a little bit of play in the turnbuckle ends (ball cups and studs) causes this ...

At least that is what I have found ...

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I had a similar problem to this. It may seem stupid, but make sure that the servo mounts are properly tightened down. That is what solved my problem...
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:44 PM   #6876
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I.M.O. I am more worried about how a car turns into a corner. However a car comes in is going to affect how it comes out. If its loose in it should be tight off, and tight in-loose off. This will alwayse apply unless something is seriously wrong. Ill take corner speed over strait speed at almost any track. But the main reason I do it that way is consistancy. So i have a baseline to adjust off of.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:35 AM   #6877
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Scotty Earnst does anyone now how to find him i met him at snowbirds .He helped me more than any other driver He has a list of sponsers Ae i know and novak he gave me a setup and i have been kickin up a notch since then If anyone does give him my email [email protected]
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:37 AM   #6878
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Stan,great to hear that.
I'm also a convert after running my best time ever on my local track FIRST TIME OUT with the car+untested tyres+stock settings+hasty gearing.what am i to say about the Pro3's,TB Evo III,and more that i have driven?
but dude,please have some punctuation on yer posts
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:40 AM   #6879
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Go to www.trackside.com, he owns the place. The number is on there, just ask for Scotty.
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Old 11-16-2003, 01:38 PM   #6880
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My TC3 is so DIALED!!!!!
And is so FAST!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2003, 02:08 PM   #6881
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I was wondering if any one has tried TRC part # TT1257 Cyan special for TC3 front foams 30mm tires? on carpet or high traction asphalt? need some info thanks.
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Old 11-16-2003, 02:27 PM   #6882
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Proficar403: Have you reserved any rooms yet? They are also offering pit rooms, no furniture, just space to pit in for 25$ a day. I got a room from Jan 31st till Feb 8th, just shy of 600$. I have a friend from VA that is going as well... we are both registering as soon as it is open. 19T i think, i dont have batteries for mod. Last year they were dumping 3300 GP's in mod!

No comments on the one way issue guys? Is everyone still running TRC plaids and purples on carpet? Trinitys ads in the mags says Josh Cyrul was running different compounds last year than plaid and purple... when i asked him at the Birds, he said he was runing plaids and purples on his TC3. I wanna go ahead and order tires before the "great shortage" that usually happens at the first of the year, i just wanna know what to get.
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Old 11-16-2003, 02:50 PM   #6883
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Proficar403: Have you reserved any rooms yet? They are also offering pit rooms, no furniture, just space to pit in for 25$ a day. I got a room from Jan 31st till Feb 8th, just shy of 600$. I have a friend from VA that is going as well... we are both registering as soon as it is open. 19T i think, i dont have batteries for mod. Last year they were dumping 3300 GP's in mod!

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I am staying with a racer from here who has already reserved a room. The only problem is that the room is only available to me starting that tues, the 3rd, so I could possibly miss mon. practice. I don't know many details, but I am definitely going.

I will probably run 19t also, It is just my favorite class, you know. I may email you sometime for different questions or info. You still check your email, right?

BTW...Everyone here is running plaid/purple on carpet.
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I am thinking of moving the batteries closer to the center. How much of the center to I trim?
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I am thinking of moving the batteries closer to the center. How much of the center to I trim?
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This is the place ya want to look this guy took all the guess work out of doing alot of the mods ppl do the tc3. He put alot of work into his site.
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