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Old 06-07-2002, 02:12 PM   #1966
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Tphalen,

Here's a directly link to it:

http://64.70.208.72/speedtechrc/192.html

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Old 06-08-2002, 05:40 PM   #1967
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T Phalen,

I finally got to try out my FT TC3 for the first time. I used a basic setup of 40 front shock oil, 35 rear shock oil, no#2 pistons, gold front springs, silver rear springs. Ride height was 4.5 front and 5 in the rear. I used the 3 degree toe in in the rear with 2 degree of kickup and the front was not adjusted. I had a small amout of toe out in the front. I ran the batteries up forward. No swaybars. Oh yeah, the shocks were in the middle setting front and back. I started out with sorex 32 r's and they made the car push bad, and then I tried a set of hpi 35 r's and they were hooked up. I tried front droop of 5 and rear of 4 and the car felt better just slow in the corners. I went to 6 droop in the front and it was better. The track temp was 140 degrees for the main, I qualified 2nd in stock which was not bad for the first time out. I ran the stock c hubs in the front 0 degree caster. I am running diff's and was afraid to putting the one way in on the first day. I took your advice and tried the car out first before trying one way's. The track is smooth asphalt with mid to high traction. Let me know what you think about the setup and I'm sorry for the long post. Take care.

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Old 06-08-2002, 07:46 PM   #1968
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No prob, Ronnie.

Well, setup seems a little stiff for dual diffs. It might handle pretty good, but we've made quite a few changes from the 'kit' setup to really get dual diffs working. I'm putting my setup I used at the Reedy Race on my site tonite. Barry Baker's Reedy Race winning setup is there also.

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Old 06-08-2002, 10:10 PM   #1969
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TPhalen,

I noticed that Barry had locked his front diff. I will check your set up once it is posted. I will go with that. As soon as I get comfortable with the car, I will be asking for help with the one way in place. I am very impressed with the car, is there anything that I should get for it that you think that the car needs? Thanks again.

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Old 06-09-2002, 09:45 PM   #1970
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Old 06-09-2002, 10:01 PM   #1971
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Alamost every set up I see from the factory guys have them using sway bars. How does the Tc3 react to running with both sway bars on and how does that compare to running with no sway bars? I have been racing my tc3 for a few months and am interested in what the sway bars do on this car.

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Old 06-09-2002, 10:08 PM   #1972
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Sway bars are gonna resist chassis roll and make the car turn tighter.
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Old 06-10-2002, 10:58 AM   #1973
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You say that it causes the chassis to resist rolling. What will car feel like at that point compared to not running sway bars? What I have noticed about sway bars is that on the rear of the car they seem to make the car more loose. Which would certainly give you more steering. And on the front of the car it seems to make the car push more. Is that what we should expect the sway bars to accomplish?
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Old 06-10-2002, 11:18 AM   #1974
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Sway bars work by linking both sides of the suspension. So theoretically, the car will squat slightly instead of roll/lean because the the arms are attached.

I use sway bars on carpet with foams because traction is not an issue and chassis roll is.

Example, I was using the front only to reduce steering a bit. About mid turn I noticed one rear wheel coming up and slipping. I added the rear sway bar to decrease chassis roll and as a result, both rears stayed planted.

I don't think there is much need unless traction is high.
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Old 06-10-2002, 04:50 PM   #1975
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Werner.....I almost always use a front sway bar...to me it plants the rear(so you can get a slight push)very slight.....I race on Ozite,rubber tires...tried a rear sway with the front and it made the rear very loose.
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Old 06-10-2002, 06:45 PM   #1976
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I built shocks and used till the rebound almost gone.

My question is

- Do I need to break them in after building them? For how many packs?

- Or is it the best to rebuild them before each race and use them as new?

Thank you in advance.
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Old 06-10-2002, 10:19 PM   #1977
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TonyP.....how about spacing up the rear shock mount when using it in the front? ....for those that do not have the new arms yet???
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:01 AM   #1978
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rcruv: You shouldn't have to 'break-in' shocks. Just make sure they are smooth and have a LITTLE rebound.

acloco: Yes, if you put a rear tower in the front WITHOUT the new arms, you can put the small limiters (the ones you USED to use inside the shocks) under the screws on the tower. 1 or 2 should do it.
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Quote:
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TonyP.....how about spacing up the rear shock mount when using it in the front? ....for those that do not have the new arms yet???
Yeah, you could shim the front shock tower, but have in mind that it changes the front roll center.
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Old 06-11-2002, 11:07 AM   #1980
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Yes, that too....

Hey Airwide...long time no talk. I see you are the MAN over at the Orion Micro game....
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