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Old 04-09-2012, 09:41 PM   #8041
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I recently bought an F104W and am looking for the parts to convert it to the standard F104 width. I know I need at least the F104 suspension arms, does anyone know what other parts I'll need?
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just started to build my X1........
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:45 AM   #8043
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TAMIYA is going to release new version of F104 ...

RC F104 ver.II
F104 get adopted in the RM-01 chassis “link rear suspension pivot ball”, Rowadekki become a new shape by adopting setting in higher dimensions is now more possible suspension New is the integrated mechanical space 3mm thick carbon fiber,
Center also serves as a damper mount upper deck,
Motor standard equipment, tires, wing production This item is also sold separately spot OP and various other kinds of parts RM-01 aluminum rolling / pitching damper provides lightweight and rigidity by mounting plate made of carbon as well as body.

(source ... tamiyablog.com)
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Here's the version from rcdriver.com At frist glance it's like they are adopting the Exotek F1R design?

The new F104 Version II chassis incorporates a Pivot Ball Link Rear Suspension (PBLR) like the one found on the TAMIYA 1/12 scale RM-01 chassis. Compared to the previous 3-point T-bar rear suspension system, this new setup enables more precise adjustments of the chassis’ pitch and roll characteristics and it keeps the rear POD from tweaking from side to side. The new car will have greater traction potential and carries more corner speed than the previous chassis design. The kit includes plenty of Option Parts as standard equipment, as its “PRO” designation implies.

Specs and Features:
1. 1/10 scale R/C assembly kit.
2. Kit features a newly designed lower deck and a lower brace made from 3.0mm thick carbon fiber. A channel has been milled unto the bottom of the chassis to be able to use glass tape to secure the battery in place.
3. PBLR suspension system features a center pivot ball, an aluminum pitch damper to temper chassis pitch movement, and an aluminum roll damper and side links to control chassis roll.
4. Front suspension features a kingpin/coil spring with the F104’s suspension arms. (Same front end as F104 version I)
5. Direct-Drive 2WD system comes equipped with a height-adjustable gear case and a ball-differential. TRF417 diff rings are now used for the diff plates for better differential action.
6. Other features include a hi-torque servo saver, aluminum servo horn, aluminum upper suspension mount, aluminum clamp-type wheel hubs, low-friction suspension balls, and fluorine coated ball connectors.
7. Compatible with Li-Fe, Ni-Cd, Ni-MH, LiPo and other rectangular battery packs.
8. Body, front & rear wings, motor, tires, R/C unit, battery pack sold separately.
9. Ferrari F60, McClaren MP4-24 and F104 Pro body sets fit the new F104 Version II and the side pontoons may also be used for the best scale appearance.

Release date: June 2012 (late June)

The following option parts may be used to further upgrade the new F104 Pro version II:
Item 54160 F104 Titanium Coated King Pin
Item 54162 F104 Carbon Rear Shaft
Item 54203 F104 Aluminum Servo Mount (L/R)
Item 54337 RM-01 Aluminum Damper V Parts
Item 54351 RM-01 Carbon Damper Mount Plate
Item 54352 RM-01 Roll Spring Set
Item 54356 RM-01 Aluminum Motor Mount
Item 54357 F104 Adjustable Metal Upright Set
Item 54359 RM-01 Pitch Spring Set
Item 54360 Fluorine Coated 5mm Alu. Short Ball Nut
Item 54375 RM-01 Carbon Motor Mount Rear Plate Set
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:58 AM   #8045
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ooooooo - very interesting...guess F1 is really picking up
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Here's the version from rcdriver.com At frist glance it's like they are adopting the Exotek F1R design?

The new F104 Version II chassis incorporates a Pivot Ball Link Rear Suspension (PBLR) like the one found on the TAMIYA 1/12 scale RM-01 chassis. Compared to the previous 3-point T-bar rear suspension system, this new setup enables more precise adjustments of the chassis’ pitch and roll characteristics and it keeps the rear POD from tweaking from side to side. The new car will have greater traction potential and carries more corner speed than the previous chassis design. The kit includes plenty of Option Parts as standard equipment, as its “PRO” designation implies.
Give us pictures, please
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:28 AM   #8047
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even tamiyausa's site don't have pics
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:56 AM   #8048
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TamiyaUSA will post the pics right before they discontinue the car.

Maybe some spy shots in May
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5. Direct-Drive 2WD system comes equipped with a height-adjustable gear case and a ball-differential. TRF417 diff rings are now used for the diff plates for better differential action.
I wonder why they are changing to the 417 diff rings? This must mean new diff housings. Seems like they are lessening the chance for some of us to upgrade, and steering consumers to buy the new kit to take advantage of the new parts. I would expect nothing less from Tamiya. [/sarcasm]
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:31 AM   #8050
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no big deal on the diff. I'm sure we'll be able to still use the 104,103,102,101 diffs on the new car. They can keep the 417 sized diff rings. We should only worry if they change the diameter of the axle. Even then we would just need to find the right bearing with the correctl i.d and o.d.
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:53 PM   #8051
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no big deal on the diff. I'm sure we'll be able to still use the 104,103,102,101 diffs on the new car. They can keep the 417 sized diff rings. We should only worry if they change the diameter of the axle. Even then we would just need to find the right bearing with the correctl i.d and o.d.
They are listing clamp type wheel hubs so it sounds like they are going back to a 201 type wheel like the hpi & FGX cars use.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:24 AM   #8052
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At frist glance it's like they are adopting the Exotek F1R design?
That was my first thought too... actually Exotek design is inspired by AE 1/12 pan car design and it is the same way that Tamiya imports RM-01 design to F104...

From that rcdriver.com overview new F104 should look sweet! What I think is important: "Ferrari F60, McClaren MP4-24 and F104 Pro body sets fit the new F104 Version II and the side pontoons may also be used for the best scale appearance."


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We should only worry if they change the diameter of the axle.
"The following option parts may be used to further upgrade the new F104 Pro version II:
Item 54162 F104 Carbon Rear Shaft"
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:44 AM   #8053
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Here's the translated text from the Japanese product information sheet. Most info will have been mentioned already but anyway...

Tamiya F104 ver.II

"F104ver.II" produce the running of high-dimensional link-type rear suspension
Please look forward to a new F104 chassis has undergone a transformation of degree can be said that nearly a full model change! !

F104 chassis is even better.
Obtained was adopted in the RM-01 chassis "(= PBLR) link rear suspension pivot ball", in the high-dimensional setting is possible.
Mainframe and connect the rear section is pivot ball, spring roll and by the link bar on both sides, control,
Equipped with a rolling and pitching damper damper also.
Rowadekki become a new shape by adopting PBLR Center also serves as 3mm thick carbon upper deck, the damper mount integrated mechanical space,
By mounting plate made of carbon as well as body, plays a lighter weight and rigidity.
Also details such as brush up over the wall thickness of the ball diff housing.
In addition, practice kit with built-in OP various parts beginning with the RM-01 aluminum rolling / pitching F104 aluminum suspension mounts and dampers.

And pitching / rolling around the rear damper, rear side link section method was adopted.
Fit over the wall thickness of aluminum diff joint, and the adoption of the TRF417 Diff plate, enhancing effect more def.

Center upper deck
Center for 2mm thick carbon upper deck (also for TRF damper) will contribute to the reliable operation equipped with an aluminum damper mount
As part of a hole-shaped notched screws, the battery can be removed easily.

Appearance changed significantly by the adoption pivot ball from under the chassis
shape.
Battery that is mounted vertically fixed by the glass to stop the tape in two places.
Has also become possible with such LF3700.

Optional parts as standard equipment
SP.1000 High Torque Servo Saver (Black)
Ball Diff Plate SP.1442 TRF417
OP.1154 F103 carbon reinforced front upright
Aluminum Horn for High Torque Servo Saver OP.1159 (F104)
OP.1161 F104 Suspension Low Friction Ball Set
OP.1202 F104 aluminum upper suspension mount
OP.1240 F104 wheel clamp stopper
OP.1341 RM-01 Aluminum Damper Set pitching
OP.1342 RM-01 Aluminum Damper Set Roll
3 × 35mm Aluminum Turnbuckle Shaft
5 × 5mm fluorine pillow-ball court
5 × 8mm fluorine pillow-ball court
Pillow-ball nut 5mm Court fluorine
Strengthening 5mm Adjuster
Spare wheel F104 (Silver)

New parts
3mm thick carbon lower deck
Short front 2mm thick carbon upper deck
Carbon upper deck center thickness 2mm (damper mount plate)
3mm thick carbon body mount plate
F104Ver.II aluminum diff housing

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Cool fingers crossed this will bring the performance up closer to the 200mm cars.
I really would love to see that.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:44 AM   #8055
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Anyone knows? ... this set of TRF dampers ... http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42102 .. is the one item from this set same as this one damper ... http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53901 ?

(I want to buy this TRF damper for my F103, but one piece with shipping is too pricey in my opinion)

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