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Old 03-16-2012, 04:13 AM   #7891
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I believe it may fit. Just remember the arms are offset about 1.5cm further back so you will need to work out the size of the hole to cut for the front arms.

I just did this one with a Mclaren MP4/6 with trg advance front and rear wings (though the front wing needs trimming as it touches the tyre on full lock)
Thanks, I'll give it a try....
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I have run both the mp4/6 and the mp4/5b on my F1R with no issues, just have to trim the front for 104 arms instead of the 103.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:31 AM   #7893
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I have run both the mp4/6 and the mp4/5b on my F1R with no issues, just have to trim the front for 104 arms instead of the 103.
Did you notice any difference in handling between your typical modern f1 bodies and the older style ones?

I'm still yet to test mine so I'm unsure what to expect. Actually I'm that happy with the paint job I did I'm reluctant to race it.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:53 AM   #7894
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I have run both the mp4/6 and the mp4/5b on my F1R with no issues, just have to trim the front for 104 arms instead of the 103.
Thanks,
Is there a chance of someone having pictuers of the two bodies?

I need to make a descision soon
thanks!
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Is there a chance of someone having pictuers of the two bodies?

I need to make a descision soon
thanks!


I believe this is his mp4/5b.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:18 AM   #7896
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I believe this is his mp4/5b.
thanks!
a picture is proof enough for me!


Good looking cars!
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:52 AM   #7897
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Hey guys,

I'm new to F1, but not to R/C. I just snagged a never-ran F104 (non-pro) and would like some advice on a couple items:

1) Are there any companies still around that are making accessories that allow the use of a traditional hardcase lipo? I have several 5000 mAh pack and it would sure be nice to use them in this car. I saw a couple upper chassis plates online but the companies appear to out of business or hibernating for the winter. Any suggestions?

2) Where should I look for a decent set of bearings? I don't need ceramic, and would rather not spend $80 on a set, and I can't seem to find a Tamiya set.

3) Tires - Any suggestions for rubber tires on high traction carpet? Also, how about asphalt?

4) What else am I missing? I'm a touring car guy and would like this to handle fairly well when I throw it on the track, but in the end I'm looking for a fun class to run as opposed to being super-competitive.

Thanks for the help, and I hope you all enjoy Austrailia this weekend - it's going to be interesting!

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Hey guys,

I'm new to F1, but not to R/C. I just snagged a never-ran F104 (non-pro) and would like some advice on a couple items:

1) Are there any companies still around that are making accessories that allow the use of a traditional hardcase lipo? I have several 5000 mAh pack and it would sure be nice to use them in this car. I saw a couple upper chassis plates online but the companies appear to out of business or hibernating for the winter. Any suggestions?
Have a look at the RSectore top deck, fits perfect on the 104, and includes thumb screws to make getting the pack in and out easier.

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2) Where should I look for a decent set of bearings? I don't need ceramic, and would rather not spend $80 on a set, and I can't seem to find a Tamiya set.
Any LHS should be able to sell you suitable bearings... A very wise investment from the non-pro bushings.

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3) Tires - Any suggestions for rubber tires on high traction carpet? Also, how about asphalt?
Pit Shimizu 571 fronts and 572 rears... Both surfaces!

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4) What else am I missing? I'm a touring car guy and would like this to handle fairly well when I throw it on the track, but in the end I'm looking for a fun class to run as opposed to being super-competitive.

Thanks for the help, and I hope you all enjoy Austrailia this weekend - it's going to be interesting!

-Kyle
That should be it, just enjoy yourself and have fun. F1 requires a different style to other classes, it's all about the throttle control.

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2) Where should I look for a decent set of bearings? I don't need ceramic, and would rather not spend $80 on a set, and I can't seem to find a Tamiya set
-Kyle
check out avidrc.com.great selection of bearings
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We are half way through our points series in Woodville Ohio at Hobby Stop West's race track. The next three Sunday's in a row starting tomorrow, May 18th are points races; the turn outs are usualy 10-12 cars.

Here is our thread:
Hobby Stop West Raceway New Tamiya F1 class!!

Come out with your F104, 21.5 blinky and Pit tires and race!

The tires we have been spec'ing for the points series are the 575/577 combo.

http://www.facebook.com/hobbystopwest

This was our first points race here:
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:42 PM   #7901
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Hello

I have one week holiday and decided to try different top deck:
- toughest one
- softest one - allready have and works perfect

so... but I didn't find a interesting one on web...
original tamyia: top-deck extends battery, so there's a space between ESC and battery ... (everyone know that there can be problem with space in F104)
tamyia - link system: do not have link system, so....

and for both of them: there's no place for lipo-battery connectors, so here's my own top deck:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...0/P1080867.JPG

1 hour to draw it and 1 hour to create it.. :-)
and there will be upgrades: hole for balancer connector into batter and more positions for the oil damper

entire album: https://picasaweb.google.com/1117646...5850399/F104F1
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:02 AM   #7902
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im have an issue at the moment...i have a 3racing f109 which i tried for the first time yesterday....just did donuts...anyway im thinking of either getting an f104 pro or a sakura fgx.....hmmmm we run on asphalt and then i see the f104x1.....and then theres the f104 black special......we will be running on rubber tires....

the reason i really want to go to tamiya is that i used to run them years ago....so you could say im used to them....

back to my issue.....would the pro be just as good as say the x1 and black special...apart from all the bling bits and other mods???....thanks in advance
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Hi I'm just switching my f104 from silver can to 21.5 blinky as my track allows both. For the silver can the 93/25 ratio works perfect. Could anyone suggest what would the equivalent ratio be for a 21.5 d3 in blinky mode be? Just trying to avoid buying 10 pinions till I get the ratio right.
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I found when switching to 21.5 the car had far more torque and acceleration.
So i found myself gearing taller to regain the top end.
Although with added timing you can go very quick indeed!
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Hi I'm just switching my f104 from silver can to 21.5 blinky as my track allows both. For the silver can the 93/25 ratio works perfect. Could anyone suggest what would the equivalent ratio be for a 21.5 d3 in blinky mode be? Just trying to avoid buying 10 pinions till I get the ratio right.
Are you running on rubber or foam? What size is the track? Roll out is more important. Just ran an event on rubber, big track 100x60 and was geared at 96/35 Roll out of 72mm. Had nice torque and top end.
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