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Old 10-14-2011, 04:23 PM   #6616
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Nope, not TOP. If TOP was to build a car I have pretty good idea what it would look like.
Put it this way, it's the same guys they bought the Scythe off of then
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:37 AM   #6617
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hey guys
i looking for battery pack to fit 104 pro. i have right side first post in and second post on left(first one missing for easy battery change). have been using the yeah racing 32s and 4000 packs as they are rounded and fit well. can anyone recommend any other types that fit. am wanting as large as poss mah

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Old 10-15-2011, 08:49 AM   #6618
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I think you are not considering the counterweight at the other side...

Tamiya people (Japanese) are in the RC business for a long time. Sorry but I can not believe you.
Counterweight has nothing to do with it. I've known Tamiya for a very long time and they have made numerous bad designs. However they do learn from their mistakes and I have more Tamiya cars than any other brand.

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Looks like a X1 with a TRG chassis and front end...

Personally not had any issues with the slide damper, it's pretty silky smooth regarldess of which way the pod is twisted. And it leaves the shock to do the longitudinal damping.
Smooth it is. Fact is the more you pull the damper tube apart the less contact there is between the rod and the tubes ourter shell meaning the more you twist the pod to the left (tube gets separated), the (progressively) softer the dampening will get and vice versa to the right.

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I don't agree with the statement about the TRG.... looking closely at it, it has a central piviot to rotate around, which in turn means the tubes will always have some form of side load to remain in line with the mounts. No escaping from that, and by the same token as what you say about the roll damper, will result in contact with the side of the tube.
I'm am not saying it is linear but it has the same dampening rate to the left or to the right.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:47 AM   #6619
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I think you really havenīt even proved the car....

I can tell you this car is a big improvement over the ordinary F104.

Thatīs all pal.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:57 AM   #6620
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So how has this affected your car? From what I can see cycling the chassis back and forth it shows maybe 2mm of plunger when pushing the chassis by hand, forcefully.

I agree 2 tubes would be better, but I think fitting another tube might have been space prohibitive.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:20 PM   #6621
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Wouldn't it be good to have dampers instead of tubes?

Could someone please say if I'm right or wrong:

What I've read from the F104 thread is that the choice of chassis depends on tyres and surface:

- Foam (carpet/asphalt): F104Pro
- Rubber (carpet): F104W
- Rubber (asphalt): F104X1

Or is the X1 the "Mother of all Bombs" at the moment?

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Old 10-15-2011, 05:04 PM   #6622
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the f104 works well on rubber on asphalt i prefer it over foams any day the car feels good to drive, i havent owned a x1 but i have the parts coming .the x1 is made for rubber racing with all mods that normally is done to the pro i think the X1 and would work eather way foam or rubber depends how you would set it up
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:17 PM   #6623
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I will stick with my Exotek
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:33 PM   #6624
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I ran both my 104 and my X1 at the TCS finals, I ran the fully hopped up 104 first and then the X1, and once I put the X1 on track the other 104 never turned a wheel the rest of the weekend. The X1 is much more settled, I could clip the curbing on the TAMIYA track and it wouldn't get all out of shape. I am not sure about the X1 on carpet though, I think it will need to be freed up a bit to be fast. On carpet it may have too much side bite and lose some of its ability to rotate properly.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:44 PM   #6625
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I know Speedmerchant is working in a new kit conversion for F104/x1 and knowing their quality produtts I'll wait for it.

New Exotec prototype seems also very nice but Speedmerchant is an expert brand in pancars parts.

Have a great day.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:06 PM   #6626
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Hey Calvin
What brand is the front end ??
Or is it a home made job ?

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The f104x1 works ok on carpet the problem im having is it diffs out real bad comming out of the corners even world champions at IIC where having the same problem with their f1 cars and none of us could figure out how to fix it.
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Nice
Camber and caster adjustment.
Looks great.

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What do you mean with "Diffs out"?
It snapps at you when putting on the power when you exit the corner?

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