14LikesTamiya F104 Pro!
09-17-2011, 06:41 PM
#6362
All you need to do is trim the mounts for the electronics "wings" where they wrap around the posts. Loosen everything up and slide it in or even unscrew the top plate and drop it in.
You will be able to see where it needs trimming.
Without trimming, it will not fit but you should not need to grind anything else.
I have always run 5000 and 5200 lipos in mine.
You will be able to see where it needs trimming.
Without trimming, it will not fit but you should not need to grind anything else.
I have always run 5000 and 5200 lipos in mine.
09-17-2011, 07:36 PM
#6364
Mine are actually cut in an almost closed C shape. The battery needs to be almost up against the posts.
One of my wings can actually be pulled off the post and clipped back on very securely.
My electronics are so big that my Ferrari body needs to be spread open to clear then dropped down, the body closes back over and holds everything in snug anyway.
Not a real big deal really.
One of my wings can actually be pulled off the post and clipped back on very securely.
My electronics are so big that my Ferrari body needs to be spread open to clear then dropped down, the body closes back over and holds everything in snug anyway.
Not a real big deal really.
09-17-2011, 08:37 PM
#6365
Tech Apprentice
Yeah grind it off little by little till it fits snuggly.
I also found with my Ferrari body even with an extremely small ESC and receiver the body still bolges slightly...
I also found with my Ferrari body even with an extremely small ESC and receiver the body still bolges slightly...
09-17-2011, 11:40 PM
#6366
I was able to get my F104 Exotek on a carpet track for the first time today. All I can say is wow it was a blast. I was running the Shimizu F1 softs and R1 mediums. The car was hooked up. I was able to use every bit of the 13.5t motor I had in it. Now I just have a few tuning questions:
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
09-18-2011, 12:40 AM
#6367
I was able to get my F104 Exotek on a carpet track for the first time today. All I can say is wow it was a blast. I was running the Shimizu F1 softs and R1 mediums. The car was hooked up. I was able to use every bit of the 13.5t motor I had in it. Now I just have a few tuning questions:
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
Did you use the damper plate on carpet? Try to use thicker grease or tighten the plate, which will reduce the tire lift. Only try to tighten the diff when you cannot get enough steering. I tried this at TQ, a tight diff will give you A LOT more steering but the rear will snap oversteer exiting the corner.
09-18-2011, 03:07 AM
#6368
Me thinks a lot more testing with foam tires is required...
09-18-2011, 04:56 AM
#6369
Tech Initiate
The chap in the modelshop was 1 of the main blokes who run the moto arena at silverstone b4 it went tits up. After speakin to you guys im tempted to go back over an tell him hes a bellend!
Cant wait to hav this car running! Its on foams at the mo so i wouldnt mind gettin sum rubber 1s for it. Id like to get sum wets but nowhere does them that i know of??
Want to get my self a new body set (wheres cheapest)
Not sure what speed controller to run in the car or motor for that mater?
Any surgestions
Cant wait to hav this car running! Its on foams at the mo so i wouldnt mind gettin sum rubber 1s for it. Id like to get sum wets but nowhere does them that i know of??
Want to get my self a new body set (wheres cheapest)
Not sure what speed controller to run in the car or motor for that mater?
Any surgestions
The model shop owner is an idiot.
If there's nowhere to run the car then why on earth did he have one then!
There is an active F1 racing community in the UK, which is going from strength to strength. For example, have a look here and it's not too far away from you. The 3Racing F109 is the most popular car but it isn't any faster than anything else - the fastest F1 at my local club is a well driven F104Pro.
Bearings can be bought anywhere, they aren't specific to the car and any 5mm by 10mm bearing will do, like this one.
For the pinion gear, you can pick up 0.4 module pinions from any Tamiya dealer, but Tamiya are the only company making the 0.4 module pinion and spur gears, so can be hard to find in stock when you damage the spur gear. The kit comes with a 25T pinion, like this. As an alternative get one of these gear adapters and you can switch to the more common 48dp or 64dp size pinion and spur gears that are available from many manufacturers.
If there's nowhere to run the car then why on earth did he have one then!
There is an active F1 racing community in the UK, which is going from strength to strength. For example, have a look here and it's not too far away from you. The 3Racing F109 is the most popular car but it isn't any faster than anything else - the fastest F1 at my local club is a well driven F104Pro.
Bearings can be bought anywhere, they aren't specific to the car and any 5mm by 10mm bearing will do, like this one.
For the pinion gear, you can pick up 0.4 module pinions from any Tamiya dealer, but Tamiya are the only company making the 0.4 module pinion and spur gears, so can be hard to find in stock when you damage the spur gear. The kit comes with a 25T pinion, like this. As an alternative get one of these gear adapters and you can switch to the more common 48dp or 64dp size pinion and spur gears that are available from many manufacturers.
09-18-2011, 05:26 AM
#6370
HiH
Ed
09-18-2011, 09:12 AM
#6371
If you go brushless, I prefer the Speed Passion Cirtix Club Race with a Corally 17.5T or an older GM 13.5T.
09-18-2011, 09:20 AM
#6372
Try to add 10g weight under each of the front arms and apply some Tamiya anti-wear grease on the front steering shafts to reduce the bouncing.
Did you use the damper plate on carpet? Try to use thicker grease or tighten the plate, which will reduce the tire lift. Only try to tighten the diff when you cannot get enough steering. I tried this at TQ, a tight diff will give you A LOT more steering but the rear will snap oversteer exiting the corner.
Did you use the damper plate on carpet? Try to use thicker grease or tighten the plate, which will reduce the tire lift. Only try to tighten the diff when you cannot get enough steering. I tried this at TQ, a tight diff will give you A LOT more steering but the rear will snap oversteer exiting the corner.
I do not have a damper plate since I am running the Exotek chassis.
09-18-2011, 01:02 PM
#6373
I was able to get my F104 Exotek on a carpet track for the first time today. All I can say is wow it was a blast. I was running the Shimizu F1 softs and R1 mediums. The car was hooked up. I was able to use every bit of the 13.5t motor I had in it. Now I just have a few tuning questions:
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
I found doping the tires was needed at first, then gave me to much traction later in the day. I was traction rolling in both high and medium speed corners. After 5 or so laps the tires lost some grip and I could drive aggressive again. Except now if I turned hard into a corner the car would turn then chatter/bounce sliding sideways. I am not really sure what to do about this?
The other issue I was seeing was in some of the tight corners it seemed like the inside rear tire would lift off the ground. This of course made it hard to get power to the ground since the tire in the air would get all the power. I am not sure the best way to fix this issue. What would change with the handling of the car if I tightened the diff?
The other problem is your car has too much traction overall. The chattering and traction rolling are all symptoms. Gluing the sidewalls on all 4 tires may help to start. Different tires might be better.
What springs, oils etc are you running? It's hard to see what is happening without your setup.
09-18-2011, 05:45 PM
#6374
Hi Rob,
How heavy is your F104 with rubber tires? Mine is already at 1418gms on asphalt. We use Tamiya 14T brushless for the Tamiya qualifiers, lots of power. Might be faster than the GT class on carpet.
Thanks.
How heavy is your F104 with rubber tires? Mine is already at 1418gms on asphalt. We use Tamiya 14T brushless for the Tamiya qualifiers, lots of power. Might be faster than the GT class on carpet.
Thanks.
09-18-2011, 09:35 PM
#6375
Blue side springs just touching
Gold front springs
Ride height 5mm
White Tamiya spring on rear shock
Exotek recommended rear shock oil(I do not have the manual with me)
rear shock length 64mm
front ball stud +2mm
Side damper Losi 60wt oil
1.5 front camber
front upper arm rear ball stud +1.5mm
.5 degree toe out
1oz weight on the front wing
289g 5000mah battery
F60 body and wing kit
I think the first thing I am going to try next is dropping my ride height some. I also have a set of medium front tires to try instead of the soft.