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Old 08-31-2011, 08:21 PM   #6181
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Hi F1 fans,

I have my new F104W almost ready to maiden, but would like some suggestions on adding ride height. I have Shimizu rubbers , on the kit foam rims , with which I only have 3mm ride height.
I was going to swap the rear axle holders for the tallest one (#1 I think), but I need to get the front up as well. Do I need to shave the steering block and and shim it down to raise the front up ??
Or do I just add preload shims to the front kingpin springs (making for less travel) ???
I will be running outdoors on dusty asphalt + bumps. I have a HW s/less 13t onboard + 2S stick pack lipo.
Just move the spacers around that are on top and bottom of the spindles/uprights.
Put them all on top of the spindles and the front end will have the highest ride height.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:28 PM   #6182
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Just move the spacers around that are on top and bottom of the spindles/uprights.
Put them all on top of the spindles and the front end will have the highest ride height.
Hmm, there doesn't seem to be too much I can do other than :
Shave down the steering blocks or the whole front plastic suspension mount -where it bolts to the lower deck.
I thought there were shims, but there aren't any .
Wishing I had've bought a normal F104/ pro now , since the F103 front seems a bit more limited in adjustment.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:53 PM   #6183
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*Xpress (#968-104) Metal Upper Arm Joint Set For Xpress Series

Rcmart carries the parts...also use titanium for the camber links, the aluminum parts bend easily.
can u use that setup in tcs racing
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:16 PM   #6184
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Hey MikeR dosnt putting the spacer to shorten the king pins per-load the
spring?

Yes and it can help raise the front ride height nicely if you are running medium or soft springs. My car sits at 5mm at the front now- perfect for asphalt. Or you can just grind the inner wheel if you don't want to mess with the pins.
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Also, does anyone run their rear rubber tyres without an insert ??
I have the F103 type on it.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:35 PM   #6186
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I ended up running 93 x 30 for the mains at Tamiya. Ran super hot but no fade.
congrats on the win...good luck in Japan.

Can you comment on your tires and inserts? How about tire prep? Anything special for the dusty track?
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Hmm, there doesn't seem to be too much I can do other than :
Shave down the steering blocks or the whole front plastic suspension mount -where it bolts to the lower deck.
I thought there were shims, but there aren't any .
Wishing I had've bought a normal F104/ pro now , since the F103 front seems a bit more limited in adjustment.
Sorry man, didn't notice you said 104W.

Yeh, you can shave down the spindles and add the amount removed to the opposite side using shims. I have done this on my 103. It works both ways, can lower or raise the front by a couple mm this way but that's about it.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:47 PM   #6188
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hello, looking for some setup help. anybody have a good starting point for carpet? i just picked up an all stock f104 pro. we have a 90x35 carpet track opening in 2 weeks so it will be low on traction for a while id imagine. and we can run the W cars...so i plan on getting the 103 arms and running foams.

thanks for any help in advance !!
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Thanks, have swapped the rear axle spacers , so onto the blocks next. I definitely need to find a couple of mm for the front.

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Sorry man, didn't notice you said 104W.

Yeh, you can shave down the spindles and add the amount removed to the opposite side using shims. I have done this on my 103. It works both ways, can lower or raise the front by a couple mm this way but that's about it.
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Which low profile servo would you guys recommend for the F104? Is the Futaba S9551 any good?
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:09 AM   #6193
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the savox 1251 fits nicley in the f104 pro to cheaper than the futaba aswell
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Thanks, have swapped the rear axle spacers , so onto the blocks next. I definitely need to find a couple of mm for the front.

Cheers !
Success - I went from 2.5-3.0mm front ride height , to 4.5mm front and 3.5 rear .
I also switched to the 3racing gold (hard) front springs. Does anyone else use these ??
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Which low profile servo would you guys recommend for the F104? Is the Futaba S9551 any good?
I own a Sanwa SDX-801 and its very durable. I hit a wall at the end of our long straigth (bad track design imho) several times. The servo overturned twice. But I could fix it with just dissasambling the gears and get it alltogether again.
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