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Old 03-21-2011, 01:05 AM   #4771
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Ooops, my Bad... I didn't read it properly (re: carpet)


@Art_Mighty = The "High Traction" is softer then Kit... I have been told, the Kit is the stiffest, then the Soft, then the softest is the "High Traction"

I've only tried the Kit & High traction plates myself....
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:51 PM   #4772
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@Art_Mighty = The "High Traction" is softer then Kit... I have been told, the Kit is the stiffest, then the Soft, then the softest is the "High Traction"

I've only tried the Kit & High traction plates myself....
Awesome! Thanks for clearing that up!
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Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
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If you want to drive on rubber and you have to use Tamiya then type A slicks for the rear and type B slicks at the front.
If you want to try foams the HBR soft for the rear and HBR medium at the front is a good starting point.
And yes the HBR tires are stil out there on e-bay.
Or if you can get your hands on foams with a shore indication,start with 40 shore at the front and 36 or 30 for the rear.

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Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
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Thanks Roy, thats all good info I took note of and will use in my tire search.
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Thanks Roy, thats all good info I took note of and will use in my tire search.
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Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
Gotta get the Pit Shimzu tires front and rear if you choose rubber. tqrcracing.com has em
Do all the traction adding tips for the rear end, T bar, spring, shock oil and damper plate all super lite/free.
Stiff springs up front and raise the front ride height, lower the rear.
Make it push then start to dial in more steering by lowering the front height little at a time.
Only sauce the rears at first.
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If you want to drive on rubber and you have to use Tamiya then type A slicks for the rear and type B slicks at the front.
If you want to try foams the HBR soft for the rear and HBR medium at the front is a good starting point.
And yes the HBR tires are stil out there on e-bay.
Or if you can get your hands on foams with a shore indication,start with 40 shore at the front and 36 or 30 for the rear.

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Sounds like you are describing F103 tire compounds but he's dealing with a 104, no?
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:08 AM   #4778
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If so me bad
Another question from my side then??
Won't the F103 tires fit(just the tires) the F104?
Or are the tires different sizes?
If they do then you could use them?

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Sounds like you are describing F103 tire compounds but he's dealing with a 104, no?
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If so me bad
Another question from my side then??
Won't the F103 tires fit(just the tires) the F104?
Or are the tires different sizes?
If they do then you could use them?

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Yeh they fit but they will make the rear end wider cuz of the width of the rear tires and to balance the stance you need the wide 103 front end otherwise with the narrow front end, tires being the same width, this thing will steer even more and make everything worse.
Then again, maybe just adding fatty 103 rears will get the rear stuck?
With the 103 front end and tires, it will be converted to the new F104W configuration which is not a bad thing either but the F103 is still, arguably (or not), better.
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And by saying this, i am glad i still drive a F103

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Then again, maybe just adding fatty 103 rears will get the rear stuck?
With the 103 front end and tires, it will be converted to the new F104W configuration which is not a bad thing either but the F103 is still, arguably (or not), better.
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And by saying this, i am glad i still drive a F103

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Having both is cool but the 103 is surely the race car.

Our Ultimate F1 series is off and running again and we have classes for Open which is anything goes and Realistic which is current F104 specs with 21.5 motor and rubber tires.

For the Open class it is without a doubt the 103 on foam with 13.5 (or even faster ) motors settin the pace for as long as you can keep a handle on em. Braaaaaaaap
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hey guys im looking at a BLACK EDITION is there anything different from the
F104 pro standard edition.

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Black addition had more aluminum I believe- motor mount pivot post, etc.
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hey guys im looking at a BLACK EDITION
Once u try Black, u never go back, hehehehe
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