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Old 06-21-2010, 04:26 PM   #2926
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:55 PM   #2928
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3Racing has new suspension arms coming out for the F104. They have an angled leading edge rather than the stock straight one.

http://os.3racing.hk/products.php?products_key=4105
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[QUOTE=InspGadgt;7571391]3Racing has new suspension arms coming out for the F104. They have an angled leading edge rather than the stock straight one.



Anyone know how this will effect the way the suspension works, if at all?

As the pivot points look to be in the same place

Shame they haven't made the top arms with adjustable castor
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Got to have a run with the new T Bar from Tamiya. I must say initial impressions are good.

rubber tires all round and the middle screw kept out...

I didn't make any adjustments to the roll adjustment screw...
middle screw kept out?
where the o ring sits?

roll adjustment screw?

I have the new T bar and also like it.

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middle screw kept out?
where the o ring sits?

roll adjustment screw?

I have the new T bar and also like it.

Thanks David
I am also interested to know which screw to leave out. Any pics?
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Using the Tamiya Soft T Bar I had good result's with not using the roll adjustment screw. I left it out altogther to help with grip. So where you would insert 3 3x10mm screws to attach the t bar to the diffuser, I only used 2

With the new Hi Traction T Bar, I've installed it as per the instructions so have used all three screws in the rear of the t bar and set it as per the manual setting with 1mm. I will need to see what changes small adjustments will make to the set-up, if it improves the car more, or even removing this screw altogether helps.

Hope this clears things up. Apologise for any confusion.
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3Racing has new suspension arms coming out for the F104. They have an angled leading edge rather than the stock straight one.



Anyone know how this will effect the way the suspension works, if at all?

As the pivot points look to be in the same place

Shame they haven't made the top arms with adjustable castor
It shouldn't affect it at all except maybe different flex in the arms. The pivot points are all the same. It is more of a cosmetic change to make it look more like this year's F1 suspensions.
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Using the Tamiya Soft T Bar I had good result's with not using the roll adjustment screw. I left it out altogther to help with grip. So where you would insert 3 3x10mm screws to attach the t bar to the diffuser, I only used 2

With the new Hi Traction T Bar, I've installed it as per the instructions so have used all three screws in the rear of the t bar and set it as per the manual setting with 1mm. I will need to see what changes small adjustments will make to the set-up, if it improves the car more, or even removing this screw altogether helps.

Hope this clears things up. Apologise for any confusion.
So you are using the previous soft t-bar without the middle screw and o-ring.

and that with the new high traction t-bar, you are using it as per instructions and if grips is not there, removing the centre screw may help, is that what you are saying?
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So you are using the previous soft t-bar without the middle screw and o-ring.

and that with the new high traction t-bar, you are using it as per instructions and if grips is not there, removing the centre screw may help, is that what you are saying?
if the new T-bar is of the same material as the older soft T-bar, removing the centre screw on the new T-bar will give the same setting as using the older soft T-bar without the centre screw, right?
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if the new T-bar is of the same material as the older soft T-bar, removing the centre screw on the new T-bar will give the same setting as using the older soft T-bar without the centre screw, right?
If so, i would have wasted my money on it.
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So you are using the previous soft t-bar without the middle screw and o-ring.

and that with the new high traction t-bar, you are using it as per instructions and if grips is not there, removing the centre screw may help, is that what you are saying?
thats correct.

I felt the high traction t bar is actually not as stiff as the standard soft t bar. It was a noticeable difference the movement it allowed once installed. I don't know if it was the due to the u shape notch that is cut from the new t bar, or if it is actually a softer material then the soft t bar.
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From what I've noticed, the soft T bar and the high traction T bar are the same material. The extra cut out in the high traction provides more forward/aft flex but the side to side is about the same as the soft with the small O ring on both

I run foams on tarmac and 27t motor, the new T bar has helped a lot with straight line stability and getting the power down out of the corners for me
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From what I've noticed, the soft T bar and the high traction T bar are the same material. The extra cut out in the high traction provides more forward/aft flex but the side to side is about the same as the soft with the small O ring on both

I run foams on tarmac and 27t motor, the new T bar has helped a lot with straight line stability and getting the power down out of the corners for me
well i like the sound of the more stability and ability to get the power down out of a turn guess it time to order one

are you running the center screw or not?
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