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Old 06-02-2010, 09:58 AM   #2806
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it just comes down to who has a better set up car because ive race every f1 and won
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:25 PM   #2807
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Ran my 104 this past weekend in a race ,the car run great,but 103's kicked my ass , I'm running a soft tbar and hard front springs and foam kit tires with no truing and a silver can kit supplied with no issues handling was great on outdoor ashfault , but I need more speed I was running 64 pitch at 93 spur and 25 pinion,does anyone have any idea's ,This is a TCS race so I'm limited on what I can do.
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Hi Faroh, if you are using foam tires you should be thinking about roll-out. The size of your rear tires will determine what gear you should be running. For the track I run on we use a roll out of 51 to 54. You will need to keep an eye on your motor temp. as you search for the right rollout. Check out
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Ran my 104 this past weekend in a race ,the car run great,but 103's kicked my ass , I'm running a soft tbar and hard front springs and foam kit tires with no truing and a silver can kit supplied with no issues handling was great on outdoor ashfault , but I need more speed I was running 64 pitch at 93 spur and 25 pinion,does anyone have any idea's ,This is a TCS race so I'm limited on what I can do.
if your allowed whih you should be. try putting f103 tires on or also maybe give the front more camber
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Ran my 104 this past weekend in a race ,the car run great,but 103's kicked my ass , I'm running a soft tbar and hard front springs and foam kit tires with no truing and a silver can kit supplied with no issues handling was great on outdoor ashfault , but I need more speed I was running 64 pitch at 93 spur and 25 pinion,does anyone have any idea's ,This is a TCS race so I'm limited on what I can do.
For what it's worth, getting a F104 to be competitive against F103s within the TCS rules is not exactly the easiest task. How about running in the F104 Rubber class?
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:34 PM   #2811
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For what it's worth, getting a F104 to be competitive against F103s within the TCS rules is not exactly the easiest task. How about running in the F104 Rubber class?
its hard but not impossible
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its hard but not impossible
...within the rules of TCS, I would be uber impressed to see parity between those two cars.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:48 PM   #2813
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For what it's worth, getting a F104 to be competitive against F103s within the TCS rules is not exactly the easiest task. How about running in the F104 Rubber class?
Coming from the guy who kicked our butts this winter with his 104.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:54 PM   #2814
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Hey, he said it wasn't easy, he didn't say it was impossible
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Closest I have ever seen is .2 per lap slower, and that was with a motor that was ON
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When I first started testing my 104, I was doing back to back comparisons with my 103. The 103 was consistently about a second a lap faster. That being said, my 104 has gotten a lot better with some minor tweaks, but the gap at Trackside was 2 laps, Rob beat himself by 2 full laps between the 2 different chassis. I dont know if the 104 will get there on the tighter indoor tracks, but I think with more development it will on the more open outdoor tracks
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Coming from the guy who kicked our butts this winter with his 104.
He saw what a good 103 does against a good 104, and its not pretty
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My F104 is the equal of my F103---but it's not legal TCS because I put 103 tires on it!!!
I loaned it to my buddy Frank Killam and he kicked out butts with it on asphalt at the Westcoast F-1 meeting.

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Old 06-02-2010, 09:00 PM   #2819
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Newbie question here. Seen this TRG setup mentioned in this thread before but no answers were offered. Anybody tried this on the F104 and what is the effect ?? Any other TRG chassis or suspension stuff that is working well ??
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Never seen that before,but it sure looks trick. What web. site has this for sale ? I'm guessing it's to keep the T-plate from shifting left to right.
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