The Speed Passion Thread
#1696
Speed Passion 17.5 V3 FDR/Gearing
here is the setup i have right now, spent the last two days trying out 110 and 107 and all sorts of different settings..
ESC: SP GT 2.0 (PRO)
Software: 107
FDR: 104/45*1.9 = 4.39
Battery: Thunder Power 7.4v 40C
Motor: SP V3 17.5R
Track: 100 Foot Straight away total 100/50 foot
SP ESC Timing: 22.6 degrees
Drag Brake: 10%
Physical Motor Timing: 7 or so degrees (between max and middle position)
Chassis: XRAY T3
I was running a bad motor initially and was getting mixed result.. changed to another v3 17.5 and car is consistently fast.. I will try 10 degree max timing on the physical motor next and probably another tooth or two on the pinion and then try 110 also with the same gearing to see what happens... but initial testing i found the 107 to be faster..but we'll see
ESC: SP GT 2.0 (PRO)
Software: 107
FDR: 104/45*1.9 = 4.39
Battery: Thunder Power 7.4v 40C
Motor: SP V3 17.5R
Track: 100 Foot Straight away total 100/50 foot
SP ESC Timing: 22.6 degrees
Drag Brake: 10%
Physical Motor Timing: 7 or so degrees (between max and middle position)
Chassis: XRAY T3
I was running a bad motor initially and was getting mixed result.. changed to another v3 17.5 and car is consistently fast.. I will try 10 degree max timing on the physical motor next and probably another tooth or two on the pinion and then try 110 also with the same gearing to see what happens... but initial testing i found the 107 to be faster..but we'll see
#1697
Yea i like the 107. Will you go a tooth higher? What was your temps? Thanks for the help
#1698
I was coming off nearly 130 after a 6 minute run, so I think we have some room... i am going to definitly try another tooth or two and see what happens.. will post my final setup later this week or early next week after i test 110 also
#1700
Tech Fanatic
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Turbo
It won't come close to the Tekin or Mamba now. I'm hoping that SP is working on it as I have 2 of the 2.0 gt's . I would think being that they can be updated they can come up with a program that will do the same thing with the timing boost. Tekin got to work on it real quick after they saw the Mamba laying it down. It may be a slow process being they are not made in the USA but I hope it can be done.
Last edited by latemodel13; 01-11-2010 at 06:19 AM.
#1701
as with any speedo maker, i am sure SP likes to be on the cutting edge also.. I beleive something is in the works... however in my observation the new tekin software is currently faster than lrp spx and sp gt 2.0 on the straight away... i personally really like sp stuff so will wait for the update which i am sure will be coming out soon
#1702
Looking for a little advice on gearing a SP v3 13.5 with the 107 software...
Tried the car at the weekend with the default software settings and a ratio of 6:1, on a 30x16m indoor carpet track.
With this setup the car had good rip around the infield but was down on top end. I would say that compared to the 312 software the 107 has a bit more top end with the same amount of rip.
During the course of the day I upped the pinion until I was on 5.37 and put the profile on max timing (as suggested in the notes) in search of speed - all it seemed to do was blunt the rip, still not enough top end, and rising motor temperatures. Was getting monstered by the Tekins down the straight and through the corners.
In retrospect, my feeling is that 6:1 was the best setting - either that, or I was still way undergeared at 5.37 and need to be at 5:1 or lower to get the speed. My other feeling is that the speedo cannot match the competition in stock right now, and I have to accept that I can match them round the corners but not on the straights.
As a side note, does anyone else feel that the drag brakes are a bit softer on 107? I settled on 25% indoors with 312, but it didn't seem like enough on 107, was tempted to try 40% or a custom setting in between.
Tried the car at the weekend with the default software settings and a ratio of 6:1, on a 30x16m indoor carpet track.
With this setup the car had good rip around the infield but was down on top end. I would say that compared to the 312 software the 107 has a bit more top end with the same amount of rip.
During the course of the day I upped the pinion until I was on 5.37 and put the profile on max timing (as suggested in the notes) in search of speed - all it seemed to do was blunt the rip, still not enough top end, and rising motor temperatures. Was getting monstered by the Tekins down the straight and through the corners.
In retrospect, my feeling is that 6:1 was the best setting - either that, or I was still way undergeared at 5.37 and need to be at 5:1 or lower to get the speed. My other feeling is that the speedo cannot match the competition in stock right now, and I have to accept that I can match them round the corners but not on the straights.
As a side note, does anyone else feel that the drag brakes are a bit softer on 107? I settled on 25% indoors with 312, but it didn't seem like enough on 107, was tempted to try 40% or a custom setting in between.
Last edited by sosidge; 01-11-2010 at 09:03 AM.
#1703
Tech Adept
Hello...
i from Malaysia..at here we're use 11.5r motor...i use GT 2.0 pro speedo and 110 version..my FDR 5.4..speedo timing 22.6,DRRS level 4..
track 190/50-feet..but still cannot catch up Tekin and Orca Vritra speedo...so fast that's speedo..we're use same motor type..Orca...
i from Malaysia..at here we're use 11.5r motor...i use GT 2.0 pro speedo and 110 version..my FDR 5.4..speedo timing 22.6,DRRS level 4..
track 190/50-feet..but still cannot catch up Tekin and Orca Vritra speedo...so fast that's speedo..we're use same motor type..Orca...
#1705
Tech Champion
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Hello...
i from Malaysia..at here we're use 11.5r motor...i use GT 2.0 pro speedo and 110 version..my FDR 5.4..speedo timing 22.6,DRRS level 4..
track 190/50-feet..but still cannot catch up Tekin and Orca Vritra speedo...so fast that's speedo..we're use same motor type..Orca...
i from Malaysia..at here we're use 11.5r motor...i use GT 2.0 pro speedo and 110 version..my FDR 5.4..speedo timing 22.6,DRRS level 4..
track 190/50-feet..but still cannot catch up Tekin and Orca Vritra speedo...so fast that's speedo..we're use same motor type..Orca...
Try timing to max 26.25 on the speedo. Adjust your motor timing a little...may be gear up 1 or 2 tooth if your motor temperature does have rooms for improvment. Your DRRS can be a little more, try 6/7.
The key is 180 degrees or lower on the motor after a 6 minutes race.
#1707
AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
I just want to re-iterate what Adam Bailey had said earlier in the thread...
SETUP YOUR SPEEDO AGAIN AFTER UDPATING THE SOFTWARE!
Just realised I hadn't done this before the weekend - and my neutral point was actually running a few clicks into the normal braking. No wonder my drag braking was soft - it wasn't working!
I was still getting full throttle, so that doesn't necessarily explain the lack of top end, but might explain the soft feel on low throttle.
Another wasted weekend then... I wish SP would put a big flashing sign on the updater to remind bozos like me...
DOUBLE AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!
I just want to re-iterate what Adam Bailey had said earlier in the thread...
SETUP YOUR SPEEDO AGAIN AFTER UDPATING THE SOFTWARE!
Just realised I hadn't done this before the weekend - and my neutral point was actually running a few clicks into the normal braking. No wonder my drag braking was soft - it wasn't working!
I was still getting full throttle, so that doesn't necessarily explain the lack of top end, but might explain the soft feel on low throttle.
Another wasted weekend then... I wish SP would put a big flashing sign on the updater to remind bozos like me...
DOUBLE AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!
#1708
If your buddy is running Tekin with V203 software, you will not be able to catch him. However, SP is definitely working on the newer software that has been testing right now...stay tune.
Try timing to max 26.25 on the speedo. Adjust your motor timing a little...may be gear up 1 or 2 tooth if your motor temperature does have rooms for improvment. Your DRRS can be a little more, try 6/7.
The key is 180 degrees or lower on the motor after a 6 minutes race.
Try timing to max 26.25 on the speedo. Adjust your motor timing a little...may be gear up 1 or 2 tooth if your motor temperature does have rooms for improvment. Your DRRS can be a little more, try 6/7.
The key is 180 degrees or lower on the motor after a 6 minutes race.
#1710
Tech Champion
iTrader: (17)
AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
I just want to re-iterate what Adam Bailey had said earlier in the thread...
SETUP YOUR SPEEDO AGAIN AFTER UDPATING THE SOFTWARE!
Just realised I hadn't done this before the weekend - and my neutral point was actually running a few clicks into the normal braking. No wonder my drag braking was soft - it wasn't working!
I was still getting full throttle, so that doesn't necessarily explain the lack of top end, but might explain the soft feel on low throttle.
Another wasted weekend then... I wish SP would put a big flashing sign on the updater to remind bozos like me...
DOUBLE AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!
I just want to re-iterate what Adam Bailey had said earlier in the thread...
SETUP YOUR SPEEDO AGAIN AFTER UDPATING THE SOFTWARE!
Just realised I hadn't done this before the weekend - and my neutral point was actually running a few clicks into the normal braking. No wonder my drag braking was soft - it wasn't working!
I was still getting full throttle, so that doesn't necessarily explain the lack of top end, but might explain the soft feel on low throttle.
Another wasted weekend then... I wish SP would put a big flashing sign on the updater to remind bozos like me...
DOUBLE AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!
Let just say they will match it....however, if you do look around, FASTER might not be necessory better. I am not naming names here but there are tracks and event that does not allow some specific software/hardware to run due to the "unfair advantage" on certain class. So it depends on what class that you are running, I know the current 1107 1110 software is on par with the other model and their softwares.....of course, there are couple software/hardware are indeed the fastest right now but again, some area might not allow those equipment to be use on some specific class.