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Old 12-14-2009, 09:48 PM   #1321
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Anyone using the Speed Passion V3 motors, feeling under powered compared to other similar turn motors?

A am running 11.5T SP V3 with SP 2.0 esc. All settings at max and gearing down to 4.4 FDR. But still slow compared to ORCA & Team Powers 11.5T motors.

Tried adjusting motor timing to max.....did not feel any increase in rpm or power??

Anyone have any feedback or advise to squeeze more juice out of the V3 motor?

Only thing great about the motor is the wiring plugs and damn the motor runs way cool.
Shim the rotor closer to the sensors
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:53 PM   #1322
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Anyone using the Speed Passion V3 motors, feeling under powered compared to other similar turn motors?

A am running 11.5T SP V3 with SP 2.0 esc. All settings at max and gearing down to 4.4 FDR. But still slow compared to ORCA & Team Powers 11.5T motors.

Tried adjusting motor timing to max.....did not feel any increase in rpm or power??

Anyone have any feedback or advise to squeeze more juice out of the V3 motor?

Only thing great about the motor is the wiring plugs and damn the motor runs way cool.
Runs cool...Gear up!
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Yes...more timing increase RPM, however, that will decrease the torque. Like a power screwdriver, you want to turn it to SLOW (low RPM) to drive a screw into a stud wall, same idea....
You cannot have BOTH at their peak...but you can have both with average power, its about balance...you can have high speed on the straight but losing torque at the turns. Or you can have punch on the infield and OK speed on the staight...for me, I would choose the 2nd choice...each track has more turns then the straight, INFIELD speed makes fast lap time, not the straight line speed...

Well-stated... However, I consider the straights "car breaker."

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Shim the rotor closer to the sensors

Why is this beneficial?
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Runs cool...Gear up!

I don't think i can gear up anymore. If i do, my acceleration out of corners will suffer. Besides 4.4 FDR i feel is way too much. It's in the rage of 13.5T motors gearing. Right now I really need some RPM on the straights.
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I don't think i can gear up anymore. If i do, my acceleration out of corners will suffer. Besides 4.4 FDR i feel is way too much. It's in the rage of 13.5T motors gearing. Right now I really need some RPM on the straights.
just try it, these motors have incredible torque, i started my 10.5 at 33mm and ended up at 40mm and it still doesnt get hot. it has heaps of rip and is a gun down the straight. they need to be geared waaaay higher than any other motor
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Shim the rotor closer to the sensors
I don't see "the science" more rpm is being generated when the rotor closer to the sensor.

But you have nice tips to follow though ..... I will shim the rotor closer to sensor on the next rebuild.
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Who use Speed Passion motor with Novak GTB ?? Is it working ??
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Anyone using the Speed Passion V3 motors, feeling under powered compared to other similar turn motors?

A am running 11.5T SP V3 with SP 2.0 esc. All settings at max and gearing down to 4.4 FDR. But still slow compared to ORCA & Team Powers 11.5T motors.

Tried adjusting motor timing to max.....did not feel any increase in rpm or power??

Anyone have any feedback or advise to squeeze more juice out of the V3 motor?

Only thing great about the motor is the wiring plugs and damn the motor runs way cool.
I think you are overgeared.....even the motor is still cool, but I really think 4.4 is too high for 11.5.

Also, what version of software are you using...? You should use 323a...
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Anyone using the Speed Passion V3 motors, feeling under powered compared to other similar turn motors?

A am running 11.5T SP V3 with SP 2.0 esc. All settings at max and gearing down to 4.4 FDR. But still slow compared to ORCA & Team Powers 11.5T motors.

Tried adjusting motor timing to max.....did not feel any increase in rpm or power??

Anyone have any feedback or advise to squeeze more juice out of the V3 motor?

Only thing great about the motor is the wiring plugs and damn the motor runs way cool.
Check if the sensors are working or not. My V3 arrived with dead sensors. If they are working, any timing advance will increase revs.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:28 AM   #1332
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Anyone using the Speed Passion V3 motors, feeling under powered compared to other similar turn motors?
i did until i geared up (11 teeth from my duo) on a 13.5. i run the sp-lpf and i ran a 4.24 ratio on a 90 ft indoor track. tons or torque, but no revs. i think i was coming off at 165*F or thereabouts.

i ran two v3 motors, a duo, and a novak. all provided identical lap times at the NEGS race this past weekend. in the end, i liked the sp because it ran cooler. on larger tracks, it may have issues if you're not using an esc that revs late ... but so far, so good.
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I think you are overgeared.....even the motor is still cool, but I really think 4.4 is too high for 11.5.

Also, what version of software are you using...? You should use 323a...
I am running 323a..T
I started FDR at 5.2...no speed on the straights. So went down tooth by tooth until 4.4 with good punch and decent speed but still not enough to keep up the the other 11.5T with turbo escs.
The motor temp highest was 145F !!! Thats still pretty cool!!

Well, this weekend will try shimming the rotor closer to the sensor then i'll gear even higher...gonna squeeze every ounce of juice out of the V3.
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turbo escs..
the key words....
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