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Old 12-03-2012, 03:14 PM   #10816
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I was using green board full timing to the right and gear 4.5 and higher (4.6..). The new thing we are trying is the super7 12.5mm rotor...in 21.5 GT class, it is MONEY in the carpet, don't know about 17.5....
Any estimate on when more of the super 7 12.5mm rotors will be in stock?

Is it worth getting this rotor for 1/12 or just still with 12.3mm sized ones?

Running on tight tracks here.

I have to say, for an old school vehicle I am using (Losi JRX-S Typer R), it handles extremely well.

Oh, I also tried out the 1 cell 17.5 I was having issues with, the track I was practicing at though is swinging double duty for the owners HVAC business so was not ideal, but the motor with same gearing that I had at the previous track and the new timing board, 20 degrees, came off ice cold. So glad that this appears to be fixed now.

Sorry for the double post, thought I was editing the last one.
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Any estimate on when more of the super 7 12.5mm rotors will be in stock?

Is it worth getting this rotor for 1/12 or just still with 12.3mm sized ones?

Running on tight tracks here.

I have to say, for an old school vehicle I am using (Losi JRX-S Typer R), it handles extremely well.

Oh, I also tried out the 1 cell 17.5 I was having issues with, the track I was practicing at though is swinging double duty for the owners HVAC business so was not ideal, but the motor with same gearing that I had at the previous track and the new timing board, 20 degrees, came off ice cold. So glad that this appears to be fixed now.

Sorry for the double post, thought I was editing the last one.
how hot is your motor when you feel it fading?
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temped at about 170
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:59 PM   #10819
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Anyone know what the stock rotor is in the 21.5 Competition V3.0 MMM?

What Rotors have you guys tried 21.5 MMM

Thanks for the info and advice
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Anyone know what the stock rotor is in the 21.5 Competition V3.0 MMM?

What Rotors have you guys tried 21.5 MMM

Thanks for the info and advice
From what Solara said, the 12.5mm Super 7 rotor appears to be the hot ticket in 21.5. I am assuming the stock rotor is 12.3mm .

wonder if the 12.5mm rotor is the hot ticket, maybe a version can be made that comes with it out of the box.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #10821
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I got a question on reventon setup item, for max rpm like 150k 140k if I lower them down to 120k with everything else constant, my car will get slower at the end top speed right? I just trying to keep the temp lower by reducing max rpm without changing anything else
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:20 AM   #10822
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From what Solara said, the 12.5mm Super 7 rotor appears to be the hot ticket in 21.5. I am assuming the stock rotor is 12.3mm .

wonder if the 12.5mm rotor is the hot ticket, maybe a version can be made that comes with it out of the box.

does this rotor work well with the 17.5 motors? in non-boosted t/c racing, we are looking for ANYTHING that will help give an edge...
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does this rotor work well with the 17.5 motors? in non-boosted t/c racing, we are looking for ANYTHING that will help give an edge...
I haven't tested any of mine in onroad, but using a 12.5 rotor with a MMM 17.5 or V3.0 1cell 17.5 and a 20 or 30deg timing board makes them bada$$. In 2wd buggy and SC I have never had an issue racing vs D3.5s, Sonics, or other motors.

They are just as fast if not faster than anything out there. Just find the sweet spot in gearing for your vehicle remembering that not all motors can be geared the same.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:30 AM   #10824
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Hello,
Thanks for your reply.
I would like that you confirm the information.
If I add the internal and external timing I will have the following timing, per motors with their original unit sensor.
1C105V3 Competition V3.0 1 Cell Motor - 10.5R. 12-15 minimum and 22-25 maximun.
138105V3 Competition V3.0 Brushless Motor - 10.5R. 12-15 minimum and 22-25 maximun.
SP000037 1/10 Competition MMM series 10.5R Brushless Motor. 23-26 minimum and 32-35 maximun.

Is that correct? Thanks.

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You are going to hurt your brain....can you simply tell us what you are running and I think we can all help you to pick the right board and setting for your motor...

Don't forget, you have to work with the gearing...and rollout.
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I got a question on reventon setup item, for max rpm like 150k 140k if I lower them down to 120k with everything else constant, my car will get slower at the end top speed right? I just trying to keep the temp lower by reducing max rpm without changing anything else
It will have lower TURBO timing after the WOT. yes, it should lowered the temperature....also try go 1T smaller.
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does this rotor work well with the 17.5 motors? in non-boosted t/c racing, we are looking for ANYTHING that will help give an edge...
Right now...everything is OFF ROAD, on road is just....not there.

However, the last testing with the 21.5 MMM, the super 7 red rotor is just perfect, this was tested by G12314 for small indoor carpet on 21.5 MMM

Setup:
FDR was 3.85
Yellow timing board on pin 3. (that is = 32*)
12.5 Silver/Red rotor.

I think the same can apply to 17.5...probably go to 4 ~ 4.2 final, Green board full right (30*). But we have not tried that yet.....or at least I don't have any solid test result of this.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:17 AM   #10827
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Right now...everything is OFF ROAD, on road is just....not there.

However, the last testing with the 21.5 MMM, the super 7 red rotor is just perfect, this was tested by G12367 for small indoor carpet on 21.5 MMM

Setup:
FDR was 3.85
Yellow timing board on pin 3. (that is = 32*)
12.5 Silver/Red rotor.

I think the same can apply to 17.5...probably go to 4 ~ 4.2 final, Green board full right (30*). But we have not tried that yet.....or at least I don't have any solid test result of this.
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Send me new rotor and a new green board, and I will test it Sunday at NOR-CAL, home of the REEDY RACE!
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Solara: any estimate on when the 12.5 Super 7 rotors will be in stock? Will you make a version of the MMM with the 12.5 motor out of the box?
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Right now...everything is OFF ROAD, on road is just....not there.

However, the last testing with the 21.5 MMM, the super 7 red rotor is just perfect, this was tested by G12367 for small indoor carpet on 21.5 MMM

Setup:
FDR was 3.85
Yellow timing board on pin 3. (that is = 32*)
12.5 Silver/Red rotor.

I think the same can apply to 17.5...probably go to 4 ~ 4.2 final, Green board full right (30*). But we have not tried that yet.....or at least I don't have any solid test result of this.
I have been all over the map with Blinky 21.5 for USGT. The setup Solara posted here has worked very well for me and matches my driving style. 6 minute race will have motor temps at 150F (w\ fan) and the 8 minute mains I see 160F. Both cases I experience no motor fade and have equal or better pace against the current crop of other 21.5 motors.

Also, watch your Brake & Drag brake settings. With the 12.5mm rotor, you should be able to turn these settings down compared to the stock rotor. This also helps to keep the motor heat lower.

For 17.5, I think I like the 12.3mm silver/purple rotor better in the MMM. For our carpet track, this rotor with an FDR of 4.5 and yellow timing board set to the middle has worked very well.

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I have been all over the map with Blinky 21.5 for USGT. The setup Solara posted here has worked very well for me and matches my driving style. 6 minute race will have motor temps at 150F (w\ fan) and the 8 minute mains I see 160F. Both cases I experience no motor fade and have equal or better pace against the current crop of other 21.5 motors.

Also, watch your Brake & Drag brake settings. With the 12.5mm rotor, you should be able to turn these settings down compared to the stock rotor. This also helps to keep the motor heat lower.

For 17.5, I think I like the 12.3mm silver/purple rotor better in the MMM. For our carpet track, this rotor with an FDR of 4.5 and yellow timing board set to the middle has worked very well.

Jimmy
thanks jimmy, I appreciate it......
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