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Old 10-28-2009, 07:10 AM   #1021
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While I have to say "your results may vary", I have to give mad props to those guys!
Same here. I recommend SP products without reservation due to their exceptional service and they have excellent products.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:19 AM   #1022
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about 60 degrees c after 6 mins

gotta say it is a great motor though

old one used to be about 90 degrees c after 6 mins
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about 60 degrees c after 6 mins

gotta say it is a great motor though

old one used to be about 90 degrees c after 6 mins
90* C is quite hot. 60*C is fine, you might actually be able to go up a tooth or so on your pinion or advance the timing a little more.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:36 AM   #1024
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i was always told that 100 degrees is MAX for a motor after this the insulation melts off

90 is ok for me , the motor has lasted all year so far and is still awsome

60 is still a little cool for me , i will test some more tonight
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:58 PM   #1025
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any pdf links to the manual for the SP GT 1.1?

Basically looking for the wiring diagrams for brushed motors for it.

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Old 10-28-2009, 09:09 PM   #1026
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I've also been running my motor around 85-90C for quite sometime now and don't see any reduce in performance since. I used to run another motor about 95-100 but that one smoked on a nice sunny afternoon!...

I notice that lap times drop with temperature. So I always run my motors as hot as possible with consistent performance throughout a 5 minute heat.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:14 AM   #1027
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any pdf links to the manual for the SP GT 1.1?

Basically looking for the wiring diagrams for brushed motors for it.

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Old 10-29-2009, 10:03 AM   #1028
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:40 AM   #1031
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Got gt pdf. TY. Sent you another email on that. thanks

But one question I emailed you about too, wiring up the brushed motors is the A wire connected to the neg term and the b c wires to the positive? The pdf isnt clear. thanks.
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Hi I recently purchased a version 3 SP 13.5 brushless motor. I have ran the motor on 2 race meetings and cant seem to get the best out of it. The motor has no punch out of the corners and no top end.

I am comparing this against a Novak SS 13.5

I am using a GM120 Speedo; final drive is at 5.88 and full advance on the motor. And profile 8 on the Speedo. Temp after running for 5 minutes 68.4C or 155F I have changed the gear ratio from 5. 4 to 6.2 with little improvement.

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Keep going past 6.2 for the final drive, or take away some of the timing in the motor.
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Hi I recently purchased a version 3 SP 13.5 brushless motor. I have ran the motor on 2 race meetings and cant seem to get the best out of it. The motor has no punch out of the corners and no top end.

I am comparing this against a Novak SS 13.5

I am using a GM120 Speedo; final drive is at 5.88 and full advance on the motor. And profile 8 on the Speedo. Temp after running for 5 minutes 68.4C or 155F I have changed the gear ratio from 5. 4 to 6.2 with little improvement.

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im pretty sure novak motors are more torky then the speed passion so take it down mabey.
Guys i hear that the orions have more top end then the speed passions does anyone have anything to prove that wrong?
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Hi I recently purchased a version 3 SP 13.5 brushless motor. I have ran the motor on 2 race meetings and cant seem to get the best out of it. The motor has no punch out of the corners and no top end.

I am comparing this against a Novak SS 13.5

I am using a GM120 Speedo; final drive is at 5.88 and full advance on the motor. And profile 8 on the Speedo. Temp after running for 5 minutes 68.4C or 155F I have changed the gear ratio from 5. 4 to 6.2 with little improvement.

Advise please
not sure what the full timing on the GM is, but, messing with all the timing and turbo crap, and three different ESC's with a 17.5 I came up with zero timing on the motor, 28 degrees on the esc, geared at a 3.7 small to medium size carpet track, for the 13.5 i would imagine it would be similar, gear in the med to high 4's check keep checking temps and change gearing accordingly
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