sidecarphil1

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i dropped about 10 degrees over a 6min run with a heat sink and fan and another 10 degrees by using the much more cooler and the power stayed longer before faiding due to heat

marcel p

that was with your tekin phil?
the speedpasion doenst fade or overheat .exept if you are way out with your setings

sidecarphil1

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yeah it was on the Tekin last year , but we all suffered with faid and overheat issues when pushing the limits of 13.5 on our track

Solara

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That happened...usually, just bad soldering work...or the motor is way hot. In your case...your motor is way hot.

You are not the only 1 did that...even the world champ Marc Rheinard did that at one of his qualifier @ the recent TITC....B wire as well. LOL.

Yes...all the rotors from SP are interchangable for all the motors...but stock motor should use stock rotor and mod motor use mod rotor.

Sydor's setup...final drive is 6.2. Yours is 4.11, big different...

21.5 with full boost is really really pushing the motor to its limit...we had tried all the setting from open 17.5 and transfer to open 21.5 and none of them work...apparently, the 21.5 motor is way slower and hotter if use the 17.5 setup as reference. So we have used totally differnet setup and found this the best for indoor carpet use on 21.5.

You don't need to use fan...as long as you can get it done for 6 minutes. Gear it to match with the temperature of the motor.

However. your track is way bigger then what Sydor used on his setting...you have to tune down Sydor's ESC setup and gear up...your 4.2 final drive does not sound too crazy after you posted the track's size...however, Sydor's setup has to be tuned down to match your high final drive (in your case...).

J-PaP

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Ok so then two things I need to know before I continue setting up my esc.

1. Which setting out of them all affects temperature most?

2. What motor temps should I be aiming for?

evil.mishi

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Hey guys,

Wondering if yall can help me set up my M-06.
I got one as a gift and i got a 540J and a Speed passion Cirtix Stock Class ESC.

I was wondering how do I connect to two to each other?


Any info helps,

Please PM me


Cheers.

J-PaP

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that ESC is for brushless motors. 540J is a brushed motor. You can't connect a brushed motor to a brushless esc. You should probably get a brushless motor.

g12314

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It is a combination of ESC setup, physical motor timing, and gearing which affect temperature not just one particular.

In general:
Reducing the amount of timing = lower heat.
Increasing the delay before the boost timing is added = lower heat
Increasing the RPM window for the timing to be applied = lower heat
Proper gearing for the above settings = lower heat

I have not run 21.5 open ESC on that large of a track, but I have run 17.5 open and was geared around 6.4 FDR. I would think trying an FDR of 5.0 would be an interesting experiment. The extra timing needs the RPM to work, and if your overgeared, the extra timing just causes heat. If the speed is not quite there with 5.0 FDR, but the temps are good you can begin to advance the motor timing just a little at a time.

80C on the motor after a 6 minute run is about the maximum I would want to see.

evil.mishi

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That makes a lot more sense now.

But I would like to race in the TCS races, I think I have to use a 540, right?

g12314

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For racing Mini @ TCS, yes a 540 w\ Brushed ESC is required.

Solara

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For me...item 15 (on ESC setting) makes the motor HOT if you are using option like 1 2 or 3...that is the item I would keep an eye on it cause everytime I get it up to 2 or even 1 I will have some fun on the first couple minutes then it will drop or sometime....BLOW UP...LOL

Your motor should not go above 180~190*f. However, this is for SP motor temp...some ppl who runs LRP need to get the motor up to 200+*F to get the best performance...

G12314 and several others who posted here in Rctech are my long time test drivers...their experience on SP motor and ESC are well documented and you can count on their data.

irgo

Solara what's wrong with SP Site
"404 - File or directory not found."

SRW141

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I was just on SP website. Not a problem.

irgo

yes, it's ok now.

so, Sp hasn't release a new Firmware & PC Interface now ?
still with V2.0_101212stock ?

striketun

Hi Guys!

I have SP 2.1 ProStock ESC and a SP 13.5 V3 motor.

Whats a good starting gear ration of this setting?

Thanks.