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Old 08-21-2010, 09:10 AM   #5281
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SP Documentation is correct, i never say it's wrong.
as SP release the 422 Documentation, while Sp has not release the
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incorrect, as the "12. SC Timing" is "0" (turned off) ,
the end RPM should remain the same as start rpm at 15000RPM or at "DMTS start RPM".
and not to multiply with "15. SC Timing Punch"
LOL...guess you like having the last word. We're all wrong and you're right. You win!

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the end RPM should remain the same as start rpm at 15000RPM or at "DMTS start RPM".
and not to multiply with "15. SC Timing Punch"
I think is not true because you have a value under the "DMTS" setting, and doesn't matter if the SC is disabled because SC is "adding" and extra timing, disabling the SC doesn't delete the DMTS setting.
Start rpm is the same of the end rpm when the DMTS setting is 0 and Sc is disabled, so you should have only the endbell motor timing working.
We are talking with the info that we have, so we can have a bad information. But till we cannot read something of official i find hard follow something that tell me: this is wrong... because is wrong. Why is wrong and for which reason? I hope (and may be i'm not the only one) to be enlightened with facts not only reading that is wrong what we know

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Old 08-21-2010, 09:55 AM   #5283
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disabling the SC doesn't delete the DMTS setting.
i never said delete DMTS setting.

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Start rpm is the same of the end rpm when the DMTS setting is 0 and Sc is disabled,
you are talking about the same thing.
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instead of pointing out everyone elses errors, why don't you just go ahead and make your own chart and post, you've been asked several times to do this but still refuse, why?
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:48 AM   #5285
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instead of pointing out everyone elses errors, why don't you just go ahead and make your own chart and post, you've been asked several times to do this but still refuse, why?


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wow seems like the same few people ALWAYS misinformed wow
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wow seems like the same few people ALWAYS misinformed wow
Bit of a pointless comment, any useful information?
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maybe this will help.
no help what so ever.... but thanks for trying
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no help what so ever.... but thanks for trying
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maybe this will help.
Same as Skypilot... i can't understand. Why the SC Punch should be an "extra" timing, on that graphic i can see that, but i can't believe is working in that way.
Doing some test i can feel that the SC Punch is giving more or less acceleration on the stright, high levels of punch (#15: setting 5/6) car is pretty smooth, with low lvls my car is accelerating more fast, more heat and sometimes too much "wild"... but i can't see an extra speed or feeling to have an extra timing, and the speed seems the same.
Is changing only the "intensity" of your acceleration.
But may be i'm wrong

Anyway thank you.
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maybe this will help.
Completely wrong.

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Same as Skypilot... i can't understand. Why the SC Punch should be an "extra" timing, on that graphic i can see that, but i can't believe is working in that way.
Doing some test i can feel that the SC Punch is giving more or less acceleration on the stright, high levels of punch (#15: setting 5/6) car is pretty smooth, with low lvls my car is accelerating more fast, more heat and sometimes too much "wild"... but i can't see an extra speed or feeling to have an extra timing, and the speed seems the same.
Is changing only the "intensity" of your acceleration.
But may be i'm wrong

Anyway thank you.
it's all dynamic : DMTS : SC BOOST : SC PUNCH/TorqueLimit

Those are intend to have multi Curved Controller,
many may not believe this, you can compare it's acceleration and temps
when not using DMTS and SC. using fixed timing to max.
and there is the differences.
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it's all dynamic : DMTS : SC BOOST : SC PUNCH/TorqueLimit

Those are intend to have multi Curved Controller,
many may not believe this, you can compare it's acceleration and temps
when not using DMTS and SC. using fixed timing to max.
and there is the differences.
Punch just controls how fast the timing (DMTS/Super Charger) is applied. (ex. 1 degree every 300RPM) It is NOT it's own timing setting. According to your chart, it's a 3rd phase of additional timing which it is not.
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Punch just controls how fast the timing (DMTS/Super Charger) is applied. (ex. 1 degree every 300RPM) It is NOT it's own timing setting. According to your chart, it's a 3rd phase of additional timing which it is not.
g26er, i don't want to argue but with these technology
you can reach highest timing, if that's you think of SC punch is,
your RPM wouldn't reach that high.

EX: if you maxx out everything,
add DMTS+#12SCT = 21+8=29 or with endbell timing +10=39

that would not be good enough to achieve Highest timing,
remember that Timing can be reach over 50, that's why SP Could go really fast.

And that's why the last timing must surely controlled with specific curved
which is SuperCharge Punch / Torque Limit. to avoid excessive timing edge,
and temps resulting Perfect Torque and shift.
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g26er, i don't want to argue but with these technology
you can reach highest timing, if that's you think of SC punch is,
your RPM wouldn't reach that high.

EX: if you maxx out everything,
add DMTS+#12SCT = 21+8=29 or with endbell timing +10=39

that would not be good enough to achieve Highest timing,
remember that Timing can be reach over 50, that's why SP Could go really fast.

And that's why the last timing must surely controlled with specific curved
which is SuperCharge Punch / Torque Limit. to avoid excessive timing edge,
and temps resulting Perfect Torque and shift.
Ahhhhhhh I got it now.... It's clear. Thank you.








There is no timing being added by "Punch" after the DMTS and Supercharger have been added.

I said I was done with you before but this time I really am... Don't bother to reply you're going on "ignore". You're right okay... White towel I give up w/ you.
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