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Old 08-12-2010, 10:30 AM   #5161
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Irgo can you write from where are arriving these info? inside the last SP firmwares we have this document (se the attached file) but i'm sure you know this but what you are saying to us is complete different, so just for to understand better is possible have more info?
The calculator is right for what I/we know

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as your attachment is for
422 DMTS RPM START Option which is:
3000,4500,6000,7500,9000,10500,12000,13500,15000.
and that calculator is not for 528

Other than that Jimmy Stegen calculator mistake is what i already mention above.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:01 PM   #5162
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Just have it so you set every digit seperatley, Thousands, hundreds, tens..etc
so.. RPM custom adjustment per Digit selection on LCD Professional.
That's Great idea defcone,
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I got my setup dialed in a bit last night. Adding a half tick of timing to my Duo2 17.5 and dropping a tooth really helped. I'm geared at a 6.30 and I might try dropping one more tooth. Temps were about 170 after 7 minutes which might be a little bit too hot considering it was cool night and our races start in the afternoon.
drop the timing on the motor and go up a tooth maybe go up 1 or 2 values on #15 that should bring the heat down. (timing on the motor will just add more heat to it)
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Hi,

what's best instructions out there explaining all the settings and correct gearing for these speedo's and motors ? I've found a pdf 'Basic Starting Setups for Supercharger Software' is it best to use this ?

The SP motor instructions say use X gearing then another SP manual will give you a different recommended gearing ?

I'll admit that I'm really confused on getting the correct settings and what excatly they all do.

I'm at the track testing and I'm up and down on gearing and changing this and that in the speedo but I don't really seem to get anywhere or notice much change in speed or temps, I'm just going round in circles

Do people just set there speedo's with some average settings then get the correct gearing and then adjust the speedo settings or what ? what's the correct way to get the gearing right and the speedo set up right.

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Hi,

what's best instructions out there explaining all the settings and correct gearing for these speedo's and motors ? I've found a pdf 'Basic Starting Setups for Supercharger Software' is it best to use this ?

The SP motor instructions say use X gearing then another SP manual will give you a different recommended gearing ?

I'll admit that I'm really confused on getting the correct settings and what excatly they all do.

I'm at the track testing and I'm up and down on gearing and changing this and that in the speedo but I don't really seem to get anywhere or notice much change in speed or temps, I'm just going round in circles

Do people just set there speedo's with some average settings then get the correct gearing and then adjust the speedo settings or what ? what's the correct way to get the gearing right and the speedo set up right.

Thanks
I done alot of testing with my Sp and I have now a basic setting that I use every time, the only thing I change on it is step#15 and gearing everything else I leave the same. Usually i only have to change gearing maybe 1 or 2 teeth up or down depending on track layout and step #15 i use if the motor temps are too high but most of the time I leave #15 at either 2 or 3. My temps outdoors in the Florida summer heat are 150 degrees on the motor geared at a 4.8 fdr with a 17.5 and 5.7 fdr with a 13.5
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Do people just set there speedo's with some average settings then get the correct gearing and then adjust the speedo settings or what ? what's the correct way to get the gearing right and the speedo set up right.

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mostly they first follow "suggested settings" by motor for best temps
with endbell 0 to 5 degree, for 2S or 6cell.

"Suggested settings" is available at the bottom page on GT2.1 4232010 Instructions.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...il23th2010.doc

for 422 ESC Software.
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drop the timing on the motor and go up a tooth maybe go up 1 or 2 values on #15 that should bring the heat down. (timing on the motor will just add more heat to it)
That would reverse the changes I made that made the car better. You say drop timing and go up a tooth, but the car was better with more timing and down a tooth It was actually about 5-10* cooler that way too.

I think I am on #3 or #4 for setting 15. I will try going down 1 or 2 more on that setting.
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I done alot of testing with my Sp and I have now a basic setting that I use every time, the only thing I change on it is step#15 and gearing everything else I leave the same. Usually i only have to change gearing maybe 1 or 2 teeth up or down depending on track layout and step #15 i use if the motor temps are too high but most of the time I leave #15 at either 2 or 3. My temps outdoors in the Florida summer heat are 150 degrees on the motor geared at a 4.8 fdr with a 17.5 and 5.7 fdr with a 13.5
Are those settings the same as you posted to me a few pages back ? So you use these on 13.5 and 17.5 ?
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I'm running the sp 13.5 don't know if that matters that much.
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That would reverse the changes I made that made the car better. You say drop timing and go up a tooth, but the car was better with more timing and down a tooth It was actually about 5-10* cooler that way too.

I think I am on #3 or #4 for setting 15. I will try going down 1 or 2 more on that setting.
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Are those settings the same as you posted to me a few pages back ? So you use these on 13.5 and 17.5 ?
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Ok thanks.

May I ask why you use 5.7 for 13.5 when all the files/documents are recommending around 6.25 - 7.00 ? please don't think I'm saying your setting is wrong but this is where I am getting confused with gearing it correctly and why I asked earlier if there was a suggested setting.

The manual with the motor recommends 4.8 -6.0 the SP Basic Supercharger setting PDF say's 6.25-7.0 and then the Word doc say's 6.5-7.0

I never know which to start with I presume you've tried loads of different fdr's ?

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Ok thanks.

May I ask why you use 5.7 for 13.5 when all the files/documents are recommending around 6.25 - 7.00 ? please don't think I'm saying your setting is wrong but this is where I am getting confused with gearing it correctly and why I asked earlier if there was a suggested setting.

The manual with the motor recommends 4.8 -6.0 the SP Basic Supercharger setting PDF say's 6.25-7.0 and then the Word doc say's 6.5-7.0

I never know which to start with I presume you've tried loads of different fdr's ?

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thats the gearing that I found to work best at our outdoor asphalt track, plenty of speeds and punch and motor temps never reached 160 (in the hot florida heat)
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Ok thanks.

May I ask why you use 5.7 for 13.5 when all the files/documents are recommending around 6.25 - 7.00 ? please don't think I'm saying your setting is wrong but this is where I am getting confused with gearing it correctly and why I asked earlier if there was a suggested setting.
those above red text is the "Suggested Settings" For using the 422 or Supercharge.
as 5.7 FDR is not Speed Passion Starting Recomendation settings.



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The manual with the motor recommends 4.8 -6.0 the
those above is the "Suggested Settings" For using Standard Software/Controller
such as "MOD Firmware" or "No Timing Firmware".



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SP Basic Supercharger setting PDF say's 6.25-7.0 and then the Word doc say's 6.5-7.0

I never know which to start with I presume you've tried loads of different fdr's ?

Thanks.
Those above is right "Suggested Settings" for Stock or Supercharge 422/528 Firmware (Latest Technology).




as for a while Safety reason Motor recomendation Settings is always for "Mod Firmware" and "No Timing only Firmware" (past technology).

Hope this will help you S.A.W to understand the source of Documentation From Speed Passion.
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