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Old 08-05-2010, 06:13 PM   #5071
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I'm just wondering if us Speedpassion drivers can expect any LIVE factory support while at Nats. well over a second off the pace and burnt up a motor and esc trying to find it.


btw, zero timing does not mean, smoother or lower power

What settings were you running? - esc, motor, gear ratio, track type etc.

I'm sure not all your time was lost in speed though.... If I were to find a second a lap I would be faster than any electric car that had gone around our track.

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:21 PM   #5072
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this is the Roar Paved Nats, ran on the same exact track and surface that the Reedy Race was held on, I was on pace at the Reedy, until the tires went away. I can't get near the same guys this time. my settings are all over the board trying to find something, what worked at Reedy is no longer good enough. when the esc blew it was at drrs, max, amts max, supercharger boost two below max, delay 7000 ,throttle delay .01 supercharger punch -1.

the sp 17.5 geared at 5.4, and a duo geared at 6.2 the duo melted, first run on

oh and you would lose that bet. the car is dailed otherwise.

oh yea, and no support for that either
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:30 PM   #5073
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Sounds good, but what about settings 13-15? Do these make a difference with the SC turned OFF in setting 12?
No, because those apply to the SC.

Hey Bro, where do you live, I see your profile, Im from Poway
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No, because those apply to the SC.

Hey Bro, where do you live, I see your profile, Im from Poway
I live in San Elijo in San Marcos and I work in Mira Mesa.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:30 PM   #5075
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this is the Roar Paved Nats, ran on the same exact track and surface that the Reedy Race was held on, I was on pace at the Reedy, until the tires went away. I can't get near the same guys this time. my settings are all over the board trying to find something, what worked at Reedy is no longer good enough. when the esc blew it was at drrs, max, amts max, supercharger boost two below max, delay 7000 ,throttle delay .01 supercharger punch -1.

the sp 17.5 geared at 5.4, and a duo geared at 6.2 the duo melted, first run on

oh and you would lose that bet. the car is dailed otherwise.

oh yea, and no support for that either
Maybe your ESC had been faulty throughout the meeting and eventually fried.... In 17.5 no matter what settings you choose, it would be pretty darn hard to fry the esc. Running 13.5 or even a 4.0 turn with 205 I have never had any real heat with the esc.

Thats the only thing I could imagine if you are that much slower. 1 second is a huge amount of time.

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this is the Roar Paved Nats, ran on the same exact track and surface that the Reedy Race was held on, I was on pace at the Reedy, until the tires went away. I can't get near the same guys this time. my settings are all over the board trying to find something, what worked at Reedy is no longer good enough. when the esc blew it was at drrs, max, amts max, supercharger boost two below max, delay 7000 ,throttle delay .01 supercharger punch -1.

the sp 17.5 geared at 5.4, and a duo geared at 6.2 the duo melted, first run on

oh and you would lose that bet. the car is dailed otherwise.

oh yea, and no support for that either
How much motor timing on the SP and Duo motors? Zero?
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:14 AM   #5077
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My FDR with a SP17.5 V3 motor on 10deg motor timing was 7.71 and my motor temp after 6 minutes was 160deg. It was just as fast as anything else there. We have noticed the same thing gearing up doesnt make it any faster just brings in more heat. For what we have seen gearing down helps more.

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Skypilot...if you have anything left try these settings. This is what we have been using and there hasnt been any car that can out run these settings. The lower FDR you are using is a sign to me that something else is wrong...imo. Every lower FDR setup we have used was met with failure. Things really didnt start clicking until we went this way and raised the FDR.
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I like the high FDR setups as well, but they make the motor seem like it had a HUGE amount of drag brake. Anything above the mid 6's and I can't drive the car because of the drag brake feel (I never run any drag brake at all).
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:31 AM   #5079
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For short / medium sized tracks, what Kevin posted is spot on (only a few tweaks for driver feel / different motor setups needed).

I PM'd you a Big track 17.5 setup (200ft straight) earlier that has worked very well here as well.

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Hello everyone i need some help. is the rotor in a 17.5 v3 the same as the 13.5 v3 and if i were to put the 13.5 rotor in the 17.5 can will it still be a 17.5 motor. i know this is kind of a silly question but still kind of new to electric.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:19 AM   #5081
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Hello everyone i need some help. is the rotor in a 17.5 v3 the same as the 13.5 v3 and if i were to put the 13.5 rotor in the 17.5 can will it still be a 17.5 motor. i know this is kind of a silly question but still kind of new to electric.
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The motor can is where the windings are, so you can switch rotors between the 13.5 and 17.5 V3 motor cans without any problem. Just be sure to check the rotor end play as the required shims on the rotor for one motor may be different for the other.

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kevin & Jimmy will you guys be at Leisure for practice next Sat ??

I need some help dialing my ESC for RCGT
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kevin & Jimmy will you guys be at Leisure for practice next Sat ??

I need some help dialing my ESC for RCGT
I am planning to be. However for RCGT, there is not much required for dialing in the ESC since it is a spec class (no Turbo, limited boost, etc...). I'm running a SP Club Spec in RCGT, so only changes I make are Drag Brake.

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We run esc timing on 15 degrees and DRSS on 5 or . Lower timing gives more punch/torque.
If you getting hot its most likely overgeared.
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yea what he said,, but you can still run your DRSS at 2 or 3 to give you that easy feel out of the corners
Thanks guys... Like I said.. being new to mod, im not exactly sure if im over-geared or not. I just went by what the motor manual suggested, and what was suggested to me at the track by a couple of other experienced mod guys. I have my 4.5 geared at 9.4 (lrp x-12)
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I like the high FDR setups as well, but they make the motor seem like it had a HUGE amount of drag brake. Anything above the mid 6's and I can't drive the car because of the drag brake feel (I never run any drag brake at all).
Most times you will always be faster with Drag Brake.....learn to use it. Watch the pro drivers and see how their cars slow down its not all them hitting the brakes.
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