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Old 04-27-2010, 12:36 PM   #3946
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I am a believer!!! Just to let you all know, I ran firmware 230 this past weekend for the first time and it is FAST! My temps were a little high due to my limitations on gearing as I don't have a lot of pinions/spurs laying around. I was close to a good setup, but now I need to adjust gearing. Charlie_B recommended I switch to 231 software since it is hot where I live now and should keep things a little cooler since it is a little less aggressive. Thank you to the entire Speed Passion development and testing teams for all that you do. I am willing to wait for an "official" release because I know it will be AWESOME!!!
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charlie b, thank you for your help. I checked out the TQ Racing site and they had exactly what I was looking for and at a great price!

Thanks again, much appreciated!
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hey guys with the speed passion beta software for the lpf would an 8.3 fdr be good to use with a 17.5turn epic duo motor to prevent overheating? basically whatis a good fdr for a 17.5 motor and the beta software that will be safe to use without overheating????thanks
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hey guys with the speed passion beta software for the lpf would an 8.3 fdr be good to use with a 17.5turn epic duo motor to prevent overheating? basically whatis a good fdr for a 17.5 motor and the beta software that will be safe to use without overheating????thanks
Start at 6.0 and go from there. I think you will be overheating it with an 8.3.
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Start at 6.0 and go from there. I think you will be overheating it with an 8.3.
oh i thought it got cooler as you got a higher fdr....will like a 6.5 or a 7.3 work?
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oh i thought it got cooler as you got a higher fdr....will like a 6.5 or a 7.3 work?
It is true to a point, but if you are just geared that high winding out your motor, it WILL overheat.

Again, start with 6.0 and go up or down from there.
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hey guys with the speed passion beta software for the lpf would an 8.3 fdr be good to use with a 17.5turn epic duo motor to prevent overheating? basically whatis a good fdr for a 17.5 motor and the beta software that will be safe to use without overheating????thanks
The guidelines in this document is a very good starting point.
Dont rush and take note of changes you make and you will be sorted.
Just dont get caught in the idea that "Max" settings mean max performance.
The software is definately moving forward and improving but we still having most problems being from guys either under gearing, over gearing, over timing or activating the supercharge to early or combinations of the above.

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The guidelines in this document is a very good starting point.
Dont rush and take note of changes you make and you will be sorted.
Just dont get caught in the idea that "Max" settings mean max performance.
The software is definately moving forward and improving but we still having most problems being from guys either under gearing, over gearing, over timing or activating the supercharge to early or combinations of the above.

http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...g%20points.pdf
the best i can do for now anyway is a 5.57. Will that be ok to start at with the really high end beta software?
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do you think a 5.57 fdr will be okay to start for the really high end beta software with a 17.5 turn motor? thanks
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"Baldmann666 Wrote I really dont want to change, as you can see I have been with SP since their first GT 1.0 speedo, But I am frustrated at the time this is taking.

We keep hearing (on this thread) Speed passion are "closer than you think" but have yet to see it!

Also why bring out the GT 2.1 Pro stock with lame under par software when it just is not fast enough?? I believed the hype and bought one and it just doesn't hack it at the sharp end.

Why not let us CUSTOMERS know just how close you are?

Why not post something to encourage us not sneer at us!

Oh and why not just admit that at the moment Speed Passion just is not hacking it??


Well I can tell you that the latest version of SP, the version number I shall not disclose did some wild things at our last National Event.

At first it was all about the sheer acceleration and speed of the Tekin RS Systems which decimated the SP. In fact a great number went and bought Tekins in between the Qualy 1 and Qualy 2...Then we loaded the latest SP versions and we waved goodbye to the Tekins in all aspects, Acceleration and Straight Line Speed. I just kept faith in the product and the result of waiting is evident. Now we shall all await the proper release of the SP and all the Tekin guys will be wondering what happened. Keep up the development SP and rather take your time and not land up like all the Team Wavers who blow Esc and motors at will because of a lack of testing.
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"Baldmann666 Wrote I really dont want to change, as you can see I have been with SP since their first GT 1.0 speedo, But I am frustrated at the time this is taking.

We keep hearing (on this thread) Speed passion are "closer than you think" but have yet to see it!

Also why bring out the GT 2.1 Pro stock with lame under par software when it just is not fast enough?? I believed the hype and bought one and it just doesn't hack it at the sharp end.

Why not let us CUSTOMERS know just how close you are?

Why not post something to encourage us not sneer at us!

Oh and why not just admit that at the moment Speed Passion just is not hacking it??


Well I can tell you that the latest version of SP, the version number I shall not disclose did some wild things at our last National Event.

At first it was all about the sheer acceleration and speed of the Tekin RS Systems which decimated the SP. In fact a great number went and bought Tekins in between the Qualy 1 and Qualy 2...Then we loaded the latest SP versions and we waved goodbye to the Tekins in all aspects, Acceleration and Straight Line Speed. I just kept faith in the product and the result of waiting is evident. Now we shall all await the proper release of the SP and all the Tekin guys will be wondering what happened. Keep up the development SP and rather take your time and not land up like all the Team Wavers who blow Esc and motors at will because of a lack of testing.
First time poster gives untrustworthy answer, I hope you aint pulling any legs and telling the truth.

willing to share any more details, like location, track type, class.....

even a name?
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oh i thought it got cooler as you got a higher fdr....will like a 6.5 or a 7.3 work?
I have almost the same setup as you and I just ran software 230 last weekend with a 6.5 FDR and it is too low for my small/medium parking lot track. My motor went up to 200*. I geared it to 7.05 and it's good now...fast and temps around 140*. You will either be too overgeared or too undergeared. Spend a few bucks on gears instead of having to spend more on a new motor.
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First time poster gives untrustworthy answer, I hope you aint pulling any legs and telling the truth.

willing to share any more details, like location, track type, class.....

even a name?
there is a possibility he is telling the truth especially when you consider Hobbywing have just bought out new software for us to test.

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well i understand that... i guess what im really looking for is some honest opinions from people that use this ESC( SP ) i want to know if its capable or even better than the LRP, or the Tekin RS pro. i just dont wanna go but a spend 200+ on a ESC if im not gonna be happy
Forgive me for being a bit of a "smart ace" but I see you get it. Your choice depends on what you're looking for. I don't think any of them are bad, just different. I own both and am happy with both, for different reasons. Speed Passion for me was a good choice because of the support for one. Charlie B is a stand up guy and is basically in my backyard, has a wealth of insight that he is'nt scared to share. That counts for alot in my book. Ultimately you have to make what you think is the best decision for you.

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Forgive me for being a bit of a "smart ace" but I see you get it. Your choice depends on what you're looking for. I don't think any of them are bad, just different. I own both and am happy with both, for different reasons. Speed Passion for me was a good choice because of the support for one. Charlie B is a stand up guy and is basically in my backyard, has a wealth of insight that he is'nt scared to share. That counts for alot in my book. Ultimately you have to make what you think is the best decision for you.

Take care, Rob...........
thanks... i have been talking to charlie-b and he's a great guy lots of help so far . so i think SP will be my next esc i love LRP and have always used them but SP offers upgrades that LRP does not and the price point is alot better at SP, the only thing im worried about now is if i burn a fet or something goes wrong with the ESC were can i send it to get repaired and also where can i find all the software upgrades you guys talk about??? can someone post a link??? http://www.mikes-hobbyshop.com/OnRoadTrack.html this is a link to my track i will be running an orion 13.5 on a HB Cyclone with a 2.167 internal gear ration can someone hook my up with a starting point with a pinion and spur???? like i said before i wanna beat all the Tekin guys!!
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