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Old 04-10-2009, 02:40 PM   #121
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:27 AM   #122
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I think the Mi4 looks awesome. There are some huge diffrences between it and the Mi3/3.5. I can't wait to see what the team does with the car this year.

I hope Schu UK sends the Euro team to the Reedy Race, IIC and Snowbirds. We have some great drivers running Schuey cars in the US but we really need some world class Mod races like Chris Grainger to show US sedan racers what Schumacher cars are capable of.
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Hopefully there'll be upgrade kits available Looks like we'll need...

new chassis, new bulkheads set, new CF camber plates, new top deck, new rear shock tower, new aluminum steering post, maybe the new thinner pulleys, and the motor clamp.

Shocks, wishbones, steering yokes, uprights, front shock tower, rear diff, spool, driveshafts, bearings, and belts all seem to be carrying over from the Mi3 series
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #125
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Hopefully there'll be upgrade kits available Looks like we'll need...

new chassis, new bulkheads set, new CF camber plates, new top deck, new rear shock tower, new aluminum steering post, maybe the new thinner pulleys, and the motor clamp.

Shocks, wishbones, steering yokes, uprights, front shock tower, rear diff, spool, driveshafts, bearings, and belts all seem to be carrying over from the Mi3 series
+ 1 I've got a ton of spares to build up another car. Just need all the new goodies!
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:08 PM   #126
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Hopefully there'll be upgrade kits available Looks like we'll need...

new chassis, new bulkheads set, new CF camber plates, new top deck, new rear shock tower, new aluminum steering post, maybe the new thinner pulleys, and the motor clamp.

Shocks, wishbones, steering yokes, uprights, front shock tower, rear diff, spool, driveshafts, bearings, and belts all seem to be carrying over from the Mi3 series
I doubt an upgrade kit will become availalbe. There is just too many different expensive parts. The carbon and alloy parts add up to 95% of the price of a new car.

Sell your old ride and get a complete new kit.
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You're about there on the differences between the cars, but i'd be very surprised if there is an upgrade kit. Like Adrian says, it's all the expensive parts that are new. Upgrade kit would be expensive me thinks.
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You're about there on the differences between the cars, but i'd be very surprised if there is an upgrade kit. Like Adrian says, it's all the expensive parts that are new. Upgrade kit would be expensive me thinks.
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true, the conversion kit would be expensive, probably around $200. But from a business side of things, it should be worth it, since more money is made from parts in general. Also, there's many out there now that would rather upgrade for $200, than have to deal with the hassle of having to sell their mi3, and spend nearly $480 on the new mi4. If they can sell their old car then at least they get 50-75% of the funds to cover for the new one, that's great,...but many would rather just upgrade their current car, especially those who got MI3.5 recently and now find out there's a new car coming.

I think from a business viewpoint, it would be a good option to offer, at least. Even Xray is offering an upgrade kit for the t2 series to get up to T2'009 level. A bit expensive, yes...but some prefer to just upgrade instead having to have to sell their cars, and then wait for backordered kits to show up, etc...

I guess we'll have to see...

The new Mi4 chassis, rear CF shock tower, and camber braces, could total $100, and the bulkheads, steering link, clamp, etc, another $100, and they'd be making a profit, I'd say So somewhere around $200 should be close...
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:12 AM   #129
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You're about there on the differences between the cars, but i'd be very surprised if there is an upgrade kit. Like Adrian says, it's all the expensive parts that are new. Upgrade kit would be expensive me thinks.

BTW Matt, why do the diff eccentrics have to be aluminum? Can they be plastic as well, like most other cars? Same thing goes for the new center Aluminum steering link...this too can be plastic. This would reduce cost significantly as well, and shouldn't sacrifice performance...maybe with these changes the car will be in the $420 range
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Adrian/Matt,

true, the conversion kit would be expensive, probably around $200. But from a business side of things, it should be worth it, since more money is made from parts in general. Also, there's many out there now that would rather upgrade for $200, than have to deal with the hassle of having to sell their mi3, and spend nearly $480 on the new mi4. If they can sell their old car then at least they get 50-75% of the funds to cover for the new one, that's great,...but many would rather just upgrade their current car, especially those who got MI3.5 recently and now find out there's a new car coming.

I think from a business viewpoint, it would be a good option to offer, at least. Even Xray is offering an upgrade kit for the t2 series to get up to T2'009 level. A bit expensive, yes...but some prefer to just upgrade instead having to have to sell their cars, and then wait for backordered kits to show up, etc...
With the economy the way it is it might be something for Schumacher to seriously think about.

I have friends in the car industry saying whereas people would scrap a car worth a few thousand because of a gearbox problem etc a while back, now people are prepared to spend what seems a large amount on one part to stop them having to spend even more on another car.

This might also ring true for RC.

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I think the car looks awesome and I can't wait to get one. I don't think the motor mount will pose a problem and even if it did, just make sure the wires to your speedo are real short
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BTW Matt, why do the diff eccentrics have to be aluminum? Can they be plastic as well, like most other cars? Same thing goes for the new center Aluminum steering link...this too can be plastic. This would reduce cost significantly as well, and shouldn't sacrifice performance...maybe with these changes the car will be in the $420 range
Sure Mat wont mind me answering for him. I for sure would not want plastic steering, the balls mount in the end and are always being screwed in and out so the treads on a plastic one would not last. HB Tamiya all us alloy there for that reason..

Plastic diff holders would be fine but the Tool to make those you would not beleive the price! so as for cheaper I dont think so. only over a long run.

Conversion kit wont be an option really, you missed new pulleys Front tower and layshaft and cap so not many bits left after that really..
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Sure Mat wont mind me answering for him. I for sure would not want plastic steering, the balls mount in the end and are always being screwed in and out so the treads on a plastic one would not last. HB Tamiya all us alloy there for that reason..

Plastic diff holders would be fine but the Tool to make those you would not beleive the price! so as for cheaper I dont think so. only over a long run.

Conversion kit wont be an option really, you missed new pulleys Front tower and layshaft and cap so not many bits left after that really..
thanks Chris for making good arguments against our wishful thinking

Well, guess I gotta sell My MI3.5's and get ready for the MI4...

Is anyone from the UK team planning to attend the Reedy Race this year?
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thanks Chris for making good arguments against our wishful thinking

Well, guess I gotta sell My MI3.5's and get ready for the MI4...

Is anyone from the UK team planning to attend the Reedy Race this year?
I very much doubt it,a bit too early in the day for the mi4, most of the UK team will be concentrating on the UK Nationals, and to get a feel for the new car.

I'd very much like to make the trip next year though
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thanks Chris for making good arguments against our wishful thinking

Well, guess I gotta sell My MI3.5's and get ready for the MI4...

Is anyone from the UK team planning to attend the Reedy Race this year?
Hey Yohan , and you just got that 3.5
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