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Old 01-11-2012, 06:29 AM   #3241
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That"s funny, just sold 3 new kits sent from Schumacher direct and build one for one of the buyers, only clear O Rings in the kit and the red ones that have more drag, funny thing to, 2 of the 3 kits came with 4 white springs and 1 came with 2 blue, 2 white as per normal.

When you buy the rebuild kits you get the blue ones, has been this way for years, they have more drag and keep the dirt out better for offroad.

I have had some shock that leak from new but most have been fine, one shock I had I found that changing the shock shaft fixed the problem, don't know why the original shaft looked fine and was the correct size.

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Yep..the rebuild with the clear leaks requirin a shaft change..n some comes new leakn.so just dont use it at all to avoid the frstration.
i thought i saw a promo on schuie that it now ships with race seal double rings but i dont see it anymore.... hmmm???
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Hey guys, I've got an LP an a near new CX I picked up from a local fast guy. The two cars are close in setup but the CX has a little more corner speed but tends to hook on the exit of tight corners. Main differences are, LP; 2mm soft HPI pink .5mm rear hex shims and 2mm rear mount spaces, CX; std chassis HPI silver no shims and 1mm block spaces. I understand the block spaces effects the roll centre, but in what way does it alter the handling of the two cars? Any other pointers welcome.

LP setup and CX.

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Hey guys, I've got an LP an a near new CX I picked up from a local fast guy. The two cars are close in setup but the CX has a little more corner speed but tends to hook on the exit of tight corners. Main differences are, LP; 2mm soft HPI pink .5mm rear hex shims and 2mm rear mount spaces, CX; std chassis HPI silver no shims and 1mm block spaces. I understand the block spaces effects the roll centre, but in what way does it alter the handling of the two cars? Any other pointers welcome.

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why not try and place the setup from the LP on the CX and see which is suited better for you.
Roll center adjustments are probably one of the hardest things to figure out.
I would like to the answer to the last part myself...
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #3244
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WildManRacing, The basics are that if you lower the rollcenter the chassi will roll more, and the opposite if you raise the rollcenter. If you lower the wishbones relative to the chassi you lower the rollcenter, 0,5mm will make a extreme difference. Fine tuning rollcenter; If you raise the upper carbon camberplate you can make the camberlinks more paralell and the you will have a lower rollcenter, there are also different leghts on the camberlink wich also affect rollcenter, but thats no need because you can make a million setup combinations anyway. If your car start tractionroll, the most powerful tool is to adjust the droop, by making it less you keep the innerside of the car from lifting from the ground,. Keep to the simplest adjustments on your car, that will take you a long way.
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In what situations is the soft weave chassis preferable over the standard chassis?

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I run on a small to med indoor carpet track, I have my mi4 geared 66/32 right now, with a d3 17.5 blinky. The motor is comming off at about 160 to 165. Should I gear down or gear up a tooth? I dont want to lose any bottem end but it seems to have good rip all around. Thanks.
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Has anyone tried the MI4CX Low traction setup from schumacher?
it seems to have some things a fair bit different than most setups
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I run on a small to med indoor carpet track, I have my mi4 geared 66/32 right now, with a d3 17.5 blinky. The motor is comming off at about 160 to 165. Should I gear down or gear up a tooth? I dont want to lose any bottem end but it seems to have good rip all around. Thanks.
1 tooth down temp should take the temps to 150s...
pick up a bit more infield torque.
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1 tooth down temp should take the temps to 150s...
pick up a bit more infield torque.
It seems to have really good lowend rip also, I put the 12.5 rotor in instead of the 12.3 for more low end also so I can gear it up a bit.
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It seems to have really good lowend rip also, I put the 12.5 rotor in instead of the 12.3 for more low end also so I can gear it up a bit.
160-165 sounds pretty reasonable. As someone else said, dropping a tooth on the pinion would lower it a bit, or maybe dialing back the motor timing a bit.

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Has anyone tried the MI4CX Low traction setup from schumacher?
it seems to have some things a fair bit different than most setups
The big difference is no rollbars, because rollbars produce less lateral grip. 1.4mm trans link for more rearendtraction. the rearend also have 0.5mm more rideheight followed by 4mm droop (on the blocks with droopgauge) for more weighttransfer to the front overall and on/off power to keep the car from pushing. This is the setup to use direct out of the box, the 1.4mm trans link is by the way a extra tuning option.
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In what situations is the soft weave chassis preferable over the standard chassis?

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I have'nt tried it myself but It is supposed to make the car faster in most conditions, In my thinking the front end should try to stay flatter on the ground entering the corner when the rear end force want's to go straight through the corner and you should experience more steering, at the same time the soft chassi is stiffer front to back, so yes it is a upgrade made to make for a faster car and many drivers are using it so...
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Can anyone tell me how thick the blades are and
How far apart the bulkheads are on the Mi4? I'm considering this gear diff in a Corally since it has the same pulley size.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:35 PM   #3254
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My LP and CX only differ in the LP has soft chassis, twin steer and HPI pink springs (CX silvers). The CX feels to have more responsive and accurate steering, which differnce would be making that most so?

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I have'nt tried it myself but It is supposed to make the car faster in most conditions, In my thinking the front end should try to stay flatter on the ground entering the corner when the rear end force want's to go straight through the corner and you should experience more steering, at the same time the soft chassi is stiffer front to back, so yes it is a upgrade made to make for a faster car and many drivers are using it so...
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Should have mentioned the track size is average 10 sec lap times and 17.5 blinky running a 3.73 FDR is that to low ? motor 165. Or gear down? Seems to work awesome.
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