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Old 09-12-2011, 02:08 PM
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Hi,

Are these same?? I can't find answer anywhere.

[49382]*ON-ROAD HARD SPRING
[42168]*SHORT SPRING SET-BLACK
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tmomedrano
thank you for the rpely Jilles! will test this soon.. when i played with setup after running yesterday (more steering) the compound effect is less obvious. i also tried the putty diff which i like i feel not so much difference with a spool but this will have to be tested back to back.

last question,

how often do you replace the internal gears in your gear diff V2?

my first one slipped after 5 batts (maybe breaking it in in the bench is not a good idea). i bought another one and put 0.1 shim in addition to the shim supplied in the kit. hopefully it will last longer

More power jilles!
The way I build the diff now, I don't have to replace the gears much. Using on both sides 3 x 0.1mm shims and use a little bit of sanding on both big gears the diff last very long. Stay tune for my new movie on Redrc with the diff building movie.

Originally Posted by TryHard
Hi Jilles,

Yes tried the bigger pinions and backed the ESC settings down a lot... much smoother. Have now gone to a 5.5t (my throttle finger isn't yet smooth enough!), and that is smoother still, and just using turbo for the straight.
Also found that adding 10% drag brake has really helped to settle the car, and also seems to aid my braking stability as well

Have you heard any rumors about an ATS? Hearing things here myself, would be great if such a series was too happen

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Yes, I heard about the ATS. First round is third weekend of Nov at Yatabe Arena. Second round in March at RC Addict and final round April in Shanghai!

Originally Posted by aussierevo
thanks Jilles for the suggestion. thanks for taking the time, much appreciated
No problem!

Originally Posted by CraigM
Hi Jilles, do you know if you will be making the FEMCA Championships in Sydney later this month?
I really would like to go, I haven't made arrangements so hopefully next year!

Originally Posted by CRiXman
Hi Jilles,

Which are the tire traction compounds you use on new carpet? Are you still using the same ones as two years ago?

Is there an expiry date on tire traction compounds? Mine are two years old.. Would they still have the same effect, or should it be safer to use newer ones?

Thanks,
CRiXMAN
I usually use LRP carpet2 or CS yellow. I suggest to use fresh additives but I don't say that old doesn't work.

Originally Posted by DPRacing
Hello jilles,

when you use a gear diff in front, can you give me some advice, I think oil alone is too soft?! do you use a potty? if so, what?

thanks!

greeting daniel
Usually I use the putty gum in the front diff. Build it with a little oil to prevent too much wear on the gears.

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Hi,

Are these same?? I can't find answer anywhere.

[49382]*ON-ROAD HARD SPRING
[42168]*SHORT SPRING SET-BLACK
Not sure about the short springs, I think they are for the mini?
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:00 PM
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Jilles,

Would have a base set-up for tarmac for the 417. Thank you for your help..
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:56 AM
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Hey Jilles,

hope you´re doing well.

Did you ever drove the FF03 ? Do you have some info´s for me (Setup and picture of your car) ?? Would be nice to her from you.
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Hi Jilles,

I've been reading your tips for awhile now, thanks for the knowledge! Just wondering how you think the 2012 417 will handle on high bite asphalt/carpet tracks compared to the existing 417. I know the motor mount will be split and more flex in the chassis, is this good or bad for high traction? Seems like the 2012 version might be better at some tracks while the current version could be better at others..just curious your thoughts. Thanks.
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Using the split/seperate suspension blocks....

Is it possible to get 3 degrees rear toe in?

The only ones I have been able to find are the following...

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1x
54171

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1A-1XA
54172

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1B-1XB
54173

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1C-1XC
54174

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1D-1XD
54175

Thx.
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:56 AM
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a 1xa and a 1e on the rear of the car will give 3 degrees of rear toe.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanV
Using the split/seperate suspension blocks....

Is it possible to get 3 degrees rear toe in?

The only ones I have been able to find are the following...

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1x
54171

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1A-1XA
54172

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1B-1XB
54173

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1C-1XC
54174

Tamiya TA05 Ver2 Seperate Sus. Mounts 1D-1XD
54175

Thx.
Split mounts can only be used on the FR or RF postion, the FF or RR positons don't have the chassis holes. You have to use the standard blocks..

But as noted above. Use a 1A/1XA block, with the 1E to get 3°.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by evotrf
Hey Jilles,

hope you´re doing well.

Did you ever drove the FF03 ? Do you have some info´s for me (Setup and picture of your car) ?? Would be nice to her from you.
Here are some pictures of Jilles FF-03.
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Originally Posted by jmellipse
Here are some pictures of Jilles FF-03.
lol...That girl is awesome

Totally swoops Jilles...lol

Masami girl
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:47 AM
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hi jilles,

if im using the split block on the FR & RF of the chassis, what changes in the handling i can get??
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Originally Posted by RL.2002
hi jilles,

if im using the split block on the FR & RF of the chassis, what changes in the handling i can get??
I'm not Jilles, but I did a back to back last weekend between split blocks and one-pieces. If your using a standard top-deck (i.e. not cutting the braces), then you'll get more overall grip, with a balance shift to the front... in other words, more steering!
I find the cut topdeck tends to shift the balance back a little to the rear of the car (more traction), but with the split blocks and cut top deck, you still get a little more steering.

Hopefully Jilles can comment on this too, he's got a lot more experience running that setup (and better thumbs!) than I have

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Old 10-06-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TryHard
I'm not Jilles, but I did a back to back last weekend between split blocks and one-pieces. If your using a standard top-deck (i.e. not cutting the braces), then you'll get more overall grip, with a balance shift to the front... in other words, more steering!
I find the cut topdeck tends to shift the balance back a little to the rear of the car (more traction), but with the split blocks and cut top deck, you still get a little more steering.

Hopefully Jilles can comment on this too, he's got a lot more experience running that setup (and better thumbs!) than I have

HiH
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thanks ed for the info. im gonna try it on our coming series race next two week. for info, im not yet done the cutting on the upper deck n motor mount. hopefully i cn get the split block soon.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Infinite 12th
lol...That girl is awesome

Totally swoops Jilles...lol

Masami girl

that's the same girl here...
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Hi Jilles,

I am wondering if you know where the piston sit in the damper body at ride height on your 417. I (like alot of other people) use them on other touring cars and I know that the piston position is somewhat important so I would like to assemble them for my car as they were designed to be run on the Tamiyas.

Thanks

Josh
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