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Old 03-03-2012, 12:49 AM   #8806
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Don't know if this can be confirmed or not yet with the new model, but I have various sway bars, belts etc, and wondered if much will carry over?, even shocks etc?, would be nice to get a new kit and end up with a handy amount of spares from breaking down the old car rather than selling it off.
From what i understand most to all the suspension parts are the same. The biggest changes are the chassis, top deck, bulk heads, and steering system. Most of this is evident from the pictures.

I'm very excited about this car, most the changes look to be for the better.
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I made an excitement in my pants...

No one take this the wrong way, but I was wondering if the price would drop cause the new TA 6.1 is good, and cheap, it's not up to the TOP on quality, but I'm fighting a hoard of them suddenly at my track, plus I drove a friends last meet, and it was very good on track.

Don't know if this can be confirmed or not yet with the new model, but I have various sway bars, belts etc, and wondered if much will carry over?, even shocks etc?, would be nice to get a new kit and end up with a handy amount of spares from breaking down the old car rather than selling it off.
price should "technically" be a little lower than the original photon simply as the EX will come with a Gear diff instead of a ball diff (approx $15-20 cheaper?)

I have received the latest EX Prototype Cad file and there are some changes from the Original EX Prototype we ran (and destroyed at TITC ), looks to be mostly around the Bottom deck and toe adjustment,

we had a look at some of the new Gear diffs at TITC and they do look very nice,

my understanding is that carryover from the original Photon to the EX will be all the plastic mold parts (arms, knuckles, c-hubs, etc), Shocks, sway-bars, belts, pulleys, universals and diffs,

basically if you currently own a photon and have a bunch of spares then the new EX will be able to use them,
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price should "technically" be a little lower than the original photon simply as the EX will come with a Gear diff instead of a ball diff (approx $15-20 cheaper?)

I have received the latest EX Prototype Cad file and there are some changes from the Original EX Prototype we ran (and destroyed at TITC ), looks to be mostly around the Bottom deck and toe adjustment,

we had a look at some of the new Gear diffs at TITC and they do look very nice,

my understanding is that carryover from the original Photon to the EX will be all the plastic mold parts (arms, knuckles, c-hubs, etc), Shocks, sway-bars, belts, pulleys, universals and diffs,

basically if you currently own a photon and have a bunch of spares then the new EX will be able to use them,
Which arm mounts are going into production? the xray style or tamiya style? personally I prefer the xray style since you can use shims for fine tuning toe and arm sweep.
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Looking forward to the new car, I have been running a Photon for a bit now and really like it, very smooth and stable car, I modded the steering for transverse servo mounting, have plenty of steering and response. But I think the car might be too stable, my lap times are no what they should be, need to get another 0.3-0.4 out of the car.

So looking for current set ups for 17.5 non boosted on mid bite carpet, to compare to mine.

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Some parts between the Photon and Photon EX are interchangeable. The majority of the suspension is the same (arms, knuckles, C-hubs, shocks, etc..). Most of the drive train is the same (bearings, rear belt, dog bones, spool, diff, center pulley).

Some differences:

The front belt is a little longer.

The shock tower mounting holes are the same so the towers are interchangeable however the EX towers are 1mm higher (this was done to get the piston further away from the bladder). The new towers also has prongs to center the sway bar.

The hinge pins mounts are different along with the top deck, chassis, steering bell crank, bulkheads, motor mount.

The new gear diff has been great so far. No leaks and butter smooth. This will be included with the kit and we have made optional steel outdrives for it.

Hope this answers some questions.
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Some parts between the Photon and Photon EX are interchangeable. The majority of the suspension is the same (arms, knuckles, C-hubs, shocks, etc..). Most of the drive train is the same (bearings, rear belt, dog bones, spool, diff, center pulley).

Some differences:

The front belt is a little longer.

The shock tower mounting holes are the same so the towers are interchangeable however the EX towers are 1mm higher (this was done to get the piston further away from the bladder). The new towers also has prongs to center the sway bar.

The hinge pins mounts are different along with the top deck, chassis, steering bell crank, bulkheads, motor mount.

The new gear diff has been great so far. No leaks and butter smooth. This will be included with the kit and we have made optional steel outdrives for it.

Hope this answers some questions.

sounds good any idea of the cost for the kit?
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Some parts between the Photon and Photon EX are interchangeable. The majority of the suspension is the same (arms, knuckles, C-hubs, shocks, etc..). Most of the drive train is the same (bearings, rear belt, dog bones, spool, diff, center pulley).

Some differences:

The front belt is a little longer.

The shock tower mounting holes are the same so the towers are interchangeable however the EX towers are 1mm higher (this was done to get the piston further away from the bladder). The new towers also has prongs to center the sway bar.

The hinge pins mounts are different along with the top deck, chassis, steering bell crank, bulkheads, motor mount.

The new gear diff has been great so far. No leaks and butter smooth. This will be included with the kit and we have made optional steel outdrives for it.

Hope this answers some questions.
thanks EJ!
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Does someone make a one way differential that works with the photon sedan?

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Does someone make a one way differential that works with the photon sedan?

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CAD drawings of the Photon EX are on RED RC
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CAD drawings of the Photon EX are on RED RC
seems like they really have taken the time to think about this one... its great! very impressed...
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now it has been officially announced,

attached are some more detailed Pics I pulled from the CAD file, (sorry the pics are not straight)
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just make sure you order the correct one as there is two versions depending on which side you run the belts,

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Some parts between the Photon and Photon EX are interchangeable. The majority of the suspension is the same (arms, knuckles, C-hubs, shocks, etc..). Most of the drive train is the same (bearings, rear belt, dog bones, spool, diff, center pulley).

Some differences:

The front belt is a little longer.

The shock tower mounting holes are the same so the towers are interchangeable however the EX towers are 1mm higher (this was done to get the piston further away from the bladder). The new towers also has prongs to center the sway bar.

The hinge pins mounts are different along with the top deck, chassis, steering bell crank, bulkheads, motor mount.

The new gear diff has been great so far. No leaks and butter smooth. This will be included with the kit and we have made optional steel outdrives for it.

Hope this answers some questions.

I second EJ on the gear diffs. They look Great.
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