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Old 10-10-2011, 03:33 AM   #8326
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I'll be gettng rid of the sway bar mount,diff and screws when I build this car
I don't like the sway bar mounts as well.

I wonder if we do get the alloy balls and and drive shaft pin holds with the kit
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I really like the car in every direction except for one: why those inner hingpin clamps? I loved the ''old'' system for it's easy and fast adjustment and had never problems with incorrect settings between left/right. Ok this will lower COG but if you want to adjust you have to buy new clamps and I think it will be a struggle to get the clamp in. All other parts are looking perfect though.
toe blocks seperate from the bulkheads are supposed to greatly enhance the consistency and grip that the car can generate.
Look at pretty much every other new design chassis on the market, they all have seperate toe blocks, even Xray, a long time proponent of bulkhead mounted arms, uses seperate mounts.
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I'll be gettng rid of the sway bar mount,diff and screws when I build this car
In use, the sway bar mount pictured is quite nice to use, much easier to set it up without slop, compared to a dual retainer method.

I agree on the screws and diff, would be better to leave them out of the kit and lower the price.


Actually, surprised they left the overhead servo mount off the pics, it is a marvel peace, the servo is suspended off the chassis, and allows the chassis to flex evenly left to right. you can actually see the gap change when flexing the chassis
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In use, the sway bar mount pictured is quite nice to use, much easier to set it ip without slop, compared to a dual retainer method.
A bit of heat shrink on the sway bars works better in between the mounts on the old system.

The new one will reduce some chassis twist at the block heads so it might be a tuning aid.
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In use, the sway bar mount pictured is quite nice to use, much easier to set it ip without slop, compared to a dual retainer method.
We never use sway bars on our cars and the new mount covers the 2mm hole that is in the middle of the shock towers which we use to balance the car
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We never use sway bars on our cars and the new mount covers the 2mm hole that is in the middle of the shock towers which we use to balance the car
good point about the balance holes

I do like the the new spool but again I wonder if its a kit part?

Any guesses on price of the kit would be?
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We never use sway bars on our cars and the new mount covers the 2mm hole that is in the middle of the shock towers which we use to balance the car

The proto cars used Photon towers, i believe some slight tweaks are still to come.


I agree, the old Photon seems to like running no bars, however the new car generates so much more grip than the old Photon, the bars are now required.
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good point about the balance holes

I do like the the new spool but again I wonder if its a kit part?

Any guesses on price of the kit would be?
That spool is weak where the pins hold the out drives
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So by the looks of the pics, it's now 80% 417 with some 411 sway bar things thrown on?, it's lots an awful lot of what made it look and feel vaguely unique, and I hope the micro gear diff in the pics is for looks alone, cause as a lasting diff option it's not an impressive feature.
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As for the toe blocks, my only real concern is the supply chain. I hate having to purchase expensive aluminum parts that my LHS isn't likely to have in stock to simply have all bases covered.

Anyone else notice that the motor mount uses only the two bottom inline screws?

I wonder how much this will resemble the kit as delivered in the box?
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:58 AM   #8336
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The motor mount looks very good and looks like it will work well with the new Revtech light motor face plate for a well venterlated motor.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:27 AM   #8337
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Im 90% sure that the u-pro diff will not be used in the kit
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:00 AM   #8338
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I'm a bit conflicted about the Tamiya style aluminum suspension mounts.On the plus side, they're probably more solid and precise. They also look really nice, but on the down side, if you bend one it is going to cost a lot more to fix. With the current setup, probably 95% of the time when my car takes a good hit, I just have a bent screw, which costs very little to replace. In a hard impact, something has to give. Easier on the wallet if it's just a screw or a cheap plastic part that breaks.

So, plans to make a real gear diff?
How about some DCJ/CVS/ECS'? (cue Hanulec )
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If they do decide to keep the aluminum suspension mounts, I hope they do something to protect them. Maybe a longer chassis in the rear with some kind of bumper for us mortals.
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New pics

http://www.redrc.net/2011/10/top-rac...-ex-prototype/
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