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Old 01-19-2011, 09:33 AM   #6841
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For me it looks like the "old" gear diff just with an other pulley for the fwd
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:06 PM   #6842
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The Side Piece Racing Mira Outdrives have arrived!! They look even better than I could of imagined. Big thanks to Larry for the assistance with these. We will be rolling with them this weekend at Horsham, and next week at SnowBirds.



Get some @ http://www.sidepieceracing.com/

First shipments go out Friday, and hand delivery to the Birds (or Horsham) is available via the 'pickup' shipping option.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:54 AM   #6843
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Are those supposed to help to get rid of all the play in the spool? If so I want one!
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:01 AM   #6844
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Are those supposed to help to get rid of all the play in the spool? If so I want one!
I really have no idea what play you have in the spool but those are meant for the Top spool to be used with Xray ECS driveshafts
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:24 AM   #6845
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Default Upper camber link ?

I've never understood the difference in rasing or lowering the whole camber link (same amount of shims under both inner and outter link postions).

So how does 3mm under both inner and outter link postions effect the car versus zero shims inner and outter (the only difference is moving the link up or down 3mm)?
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:28 AM   #6846
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I really have no idea what play you have in the spool but those are meant for the Top spool to be used with Xray ECS driveshafts
My spool feels like a loose tooth.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:40 AM   #6847
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My spool feels like a loose tooth.
Two things can happen here. Either the spool cup has taken some shots and rounded the inside of the spool itself (which creates the slop), or the slot in the spool cups themselves are worn out if a blade has broken and gotten chewed up from the drive pin. More than likely, you need a new plastic spool piece and that'll solve the problems.

As for the Side Piece part... nice job guys. Whenever I get my ass up to run some TC, I'll have to get some ECS shafts and some SPR cups.

Good luck at Birds guys!!!!!

I'll be enjoying taking a Stress Test... yippie.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:52 PM   #6848
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The Side Piece Racing Mira Outdrives have arrived!! They look even better than I could of imagined. Big thanks to Larry for the assistance with these. We will be rolling with them this weekend at Horsham, and next week at SnowBirds.



Get some @ http://www.sidepieceracing.com/

First shipments go out Friday, and hand delivery to the Birds (or Horsham) is available via the 'pickup' shipping option.
Those are sexy.
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I've never understood the difference in rasing or lowering the whole camber link (same amount of shims under both inner and outter link postions).

So how does 3mm under both inner and outter link postions effect the car versus zero shims inner and outter (the only difference is moving the link up or down 3mm)?
It's a roll center change, the xray setup book describes it pretty well, in the real world it seems to produce better sidebite to me.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:37 PM   #6850
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I've never understood the difference in rasing or lowering the whole camber link (same amount of shims under both inner and outter link postions).

So how does 3mm under both inner and outter link postions effect the car versus zero shims inner and outter (the only difference is moving the link up or down 3mm)?
Generally speaking... raising the link equally allows for more roll on that end of the car, and lowering the hingepins allow for more roll on that end of the car. I wont say it generates grip, so much as it allows easier weight transfer across that end of the car.

Here, i part ways with the common descriptions of "grip" and "traction", and how its "found". To me, "generating grip" is a matter between the tire and track in question. A suspension is designed to make USE of the grip FOUND between tire and track. A properly adjusted suspension makes the most EFFICIENT use out of the grip found between tire and track... assuming the nut behind the wheel is up to par.

Link length and height combined affect camber gain. Camber gain adjustment allows for a flat tire contact patch regardless of the amount of chassis roll. Generally speaking, the less a car rolls, the more camber gain you will need to maintain a flat tire contact patch.

Incidentally, understanding camber gain and camber link length provides the basics for understanding Ackerman adjustment. Just look down on top of the steering links/knuckles/bellcrank, and think it through.

What do you think a longer steering link would do?

What happens if you move the bellcrank ballstuds further apart?

What do you think moving the center ackerman adjustment would do?

With that you might can see why TOP designed "radial ackerman" into the steering bellcrank. You affect link length and 'height' with one simple adjustment.

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Old 01-20-2011, 05:28 PM   #6851
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Anyone have a good drift setup for a Photon? Will the new side piece racing spool cups make my drifter maximum awesome?
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Old 01-20-2011, 05:51 PM   #6852
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I like red one
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:00 PM   #6853
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I like when my cars don't failing me on the track. Prior to running a Photon I had been running XRay touring cars and had nothing but great success with their ECS drive shafts (including an IIC amateur win!).

Maybe if we sell out the first 50 set order of Side Piece Racing Mira Outdrives then we can think about getting the next order larger and anodized. 20 of the 50 sets are already spoken for -- not too bad for 24 hours! Thanks to everyone who has contacted me.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Just one more day until we get to stress test the hell out of these parts...
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Please let me know if you have any questions. Just one more day until we get to stress test the hell out of these parts...
If anyone can stress test anything, it's you.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:06 PM   #6855
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