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Old 08-17-2010, 07:06 AM   #5326
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Shock are personal preference, each brand has a different feeling.

Tamiya/Xray spring is good on carpet

Use the ball diff today its just gonna complicate things with the gear diff
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:35 AM   #5327
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i had the same issue, measured the shims, some have slightly different measurements,some shims vary , i had some that were 1.0mm and some where 1.1mm
Shims ara perfect!
switch Suspension Mount
but sx is 2 and dx reduced to 2,8
WHY?
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Shims ara perfect!
switch Suspension Mount
but sx is 2 and dx reduced to 2,8
WHY?
I'm stuck I don't know what else to say
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:15 AM   #5329
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I'm stuck I don't know what else to say
I also don't know what else to say....

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I also don't know what else to say....

Switch the bulkheads and check again
check each screw to see if it is bent
check the suspenion mounts
check the hinge pins to see if they are bent
Check the arms
Check the rear hubs
Verify that the spacers and collars are the right thinkness
Check the carbon fibre wings

Just a suggestion....
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I have problem With Rear Toe-in
i have 1mm RF an 3mm RR
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on Setup Gauge Station
SX is 2 DX 3.2
Car is New, NO Yoke no Crash
Help me
I had the same issue, it was the plastic hinge pin holder that was bad. Replaced it and all was perfect.
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I had the same issue, it was the plastic hinge pin holder that was bad. Replaced it and all was perfect.
mine was with the shims
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I had the same issue, it was the plastic hinge pin holder that was bad. Replaced it and all was perfect.
great!
Now buy a Spare Part
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Exclamation Un-Equal Rear Toe Issue

I encountered this Issue almost a year ago, as I own One of the First Batch Rubber Spec Kits sold thru A Main Hobbies. I recieved this car in July of last year, took my time assembling it but saved it for the upcoming Winter Carpet Season.
It wasn't till another owner ask,(on RC Tech), if anyone noticed this issue that, (Note- I confess to not paying attention to Rear Toe as like a "Pillow Ball" Rear Suspension Nitro Car would require), the overhead visual reference that had Haunted me, compelled me to check the Toe on a Setup Station.
To cut to the Chase, what I was able to determine is that the Kit 2.5mm 6 cell Slotted Chassis Plate shows the Left/Rear Bulkhead to be located and or holes Drilled Wrong. The First of the 2.5mm LiPo Plates also appear to have nearly as much production Error, (I can measure .20mm less distance between Front and Rear of the Rear Two Bulkheads! (suggesting the Rear Bulkheads are Not parallel).
I brought this Issue up with Michael @TOP, and eventhough I did not get a reasonable explaination, in all fairness to Michael and TOP USA, I know they are really busy keeping up with demand.
And please, don't anybody misunderstand, this is not a big deal as the Rear Hinge pin holders can be "Shimmed" to compensate for this, and by NO MEANS, should detract from an "OUTSTANDING CAR"!
I'm a little disappointed thou that TOP has yet to correct this Issue!
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:05 PM   #5335
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I encountered this Issue almost a year ago, as I own One of the First Batch Rubber Spec Kits sold thru A Main Hobbies. I recieved this car in July of last year, took my time assembling it but saved it for the upcoming Winter Carpet Season.
It wasn't till another owner ask,(on RC Tech), if anyone noticed this issue that, (Note- I confess to not paying attention to Rear Toe as like a "Pillow Ball" Rear Suspension Nitro Car would require), the overhead visual reference that had Haunted me, compelled me to check the Toe on a Setup Station.
To cut to the Chase, what I was able to determine is that the Kit 2.5mm 6 cell Slotted Chassis Plate shows the Left/Rear Bulkhead to be located and or holes Drilled Wrong. The First of the 2.5mm LiPo Plates also appear to have nearly as much production Error, (I can measure .20mm less distance between Front and Rear of the Rear Two Bulkheads! (suggesting the Rear Bulkheads are Not parallel).
I brought this Issue up with Michael @TOP, and eventhough I did not get a reasonable explaination, in all fairness to Michael and TOP USA, I know they are really busy keeping up with demand.
And please, don't anybody misunderstand, this is not a big deal as the Rear Hinge pin holders can be "Shimmed" to compensate for this, and by NO MEANS, should detract from an "OUTSTANDING CAR"!
I'm a little disappointed thou that TOP has yet to correct this Issue!
but I have a New Lipo Chassis...
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I also have the new 2.25mm stiff lipo chassis and the bulk heads not being parallel does not appear to be an issue, but a good thing to look at.

When i initially built the car the toe was perfect, drove the car, had a few mishaps, the tow was not symmetrical. The same thing happened with an Xray 007. Come to find out if you break a rear arm it puts a lot of stress on the plastic hinge pin holders causing the hole to get deformed throwing off toe.

The nice thing about plastic holders is there cheap, other cars with aluminum holders require a more expensive part to be replace.

I would try the high or low holders in the rear to make sure this is the problem before buying new holders.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:17 PM   #5337
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I also have the new 2.25mm stiff lipo chassis and the bulk heads not being parallel does not appear to be an issue, but a good thing to look at.

When i initially built the car the toe was perfect, drove the car, had a few mishaps, the tow was not symmetrical. The same thing happened with an Xray 007. Come to find out if you break a rear arm it puts a lot of stress on the plastic hinge pin holders causing the hole to get deformed throwing off toe.

The nice thing about plastic holders is there cheap, other cars with aluminum holders require a more expensive part to be replace.

I would try the high or low holders in the rear to make sure this is the problem before buying new holders.
i Try Hig e low, 1 difference too
iTry change a Chassis...
1 difference...

plastic holders not are the problem...
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:01 PM   #5338
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Does anyone understand exactly the difference between the top springs gamma beta etc?

I'm looking for a detailed explanation so I can understand when to use what type of spring

So far Xray is my favourite on carpet but I'm looking to expand my experience and knowledge
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I'd be checking if an arm or rear hub hasn't been missaligned when it was drilled
swap the hubs from left to right etc an check again
If still no good flip the arms across an re check

hav you checked with another setup station to?
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I'd be checking if an arm or rear hub hasn't been missaligned when it was drilled
swap the hubs from left to right etc an check again
If still no good flip the arms across an re check

hav you checked with another setup station to?
Yes, have Swap arm, no change...

front TOE is perfect...
last week have testing with old Setup Station, 1 difference
I don't know what to think!

however, the car on the track is very well!
Have tested on Asphal 2 week later(with toe in problem!) and is very Easy to drive and damn Faster...
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