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Old 08-09-2009, 08:26 AM   #1801
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Wow... You guys are killing me.....

Changing the spacers inside/outside does not change leverage... The shock position is the shock position on the suspension arm (point of instance). It will change the shock angle to the tower....

Shims at the bulkhead w/narrow hex - Slightly longer camber link, slightly increased shock angle and outer hinge pin position closer to center line/contact patch of the tire - Usually generates less contact patch/tire scrub which allows the rear tires to work easier and generate more grip. The car will be smoother, more rear traction (especially in the center of the corner) and the rear tires should overheat less in high temp or high load conditions.

Less shims at the bulkhead w/wide hex or shims - Of course, opposite as above. Makes the car more aggressive and loads the tire contact patch harder which can make the car over rotate in the center of the corner.

There's always a balance to this to generate steering vs rear grip. In 1/8 gas racing it can make a huge difference to the rear tire wear. I personally always try to run as narrow rear hexes as possible and then try to make the car steer. If it won't steer, wider rear hexes are a last resort.
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Any reply or feedback on that? LOL

Whats up Josh. You need start practicing with Lipo 12 scale at MSI before Vegas. I'll run some Mod with you.
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Any reply or feedback on that? LOL

Whats up Josh. You need start practicing with Lipo 12 scale at MSI before Vegas. I'll run some Mod with you.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:47 AM   #1803
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Hey guys, I had a request to make up some aluminum rear hubs for the Photon. Feedback has been very good. I have a few sets still available. PM me for more info if interested. You can check them out @ http://home.earthlink.net/~cbradshaw25/id40.html
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Hey guys, I had a request to make up some aluminum rear hubs for the Photon. Feedback has been very good. I have a few sets still available. PM me for more info if interested. You can check them out @ http://home.earthlink.net/~cbradshaw25/id40.html
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:03 PM   #1805
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hey did anyone posted the lb rating for the Top springs yets.
I use some Hara springs of the same G or lighter but it still feels stiffer then
the top springs of the same rating or higher.
the Hara slivers are 13.9lb/250g but feels stiffer then the top 306g that came with the kit??
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:17 PM   #1806
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I have a friend that wants the link to that presentation for the Photon. I can not find it . Does anyone have the link to it ? Please and thank you
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the presentation was still on the TOP USA page last week.

As for springs, I've never liked the feel of hara springs. Generally I stick to tamiya or hpi springs.
Off hand I think the rated lbs of the 306 is 16.9.... Same as hpi but due to material it runs a little bit softer.

So far I've not once been far off the hpi equivalents of the kit springs.

Btw the rated lbs of the springs is in the manual

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hey did anyone posted the lb rating for the Top springs yets.
I use some Hara springs of the same G or lighter but it still feels stiffer then
the top springs of the same rating or higher.
the Hara slivers are 13.9lb/250g but feels stiffer then the top 306g that came with the kit??
Here you go..

PS-TR15550 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 5.50) 393gf/mm , 22.0lb/in
PS-TR15575 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 5.75) 367gf/mm , 20.5lb/in
PS-TR15600 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.00) 344gf/mm , 19.2lb/in
PS-TR15625 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.25) 324gf/mm , 18.1lb/in
PS-TR15650 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.50) 306gf/mm , 17.1lb/in
PS-TR15675 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.75) 289gf/mm , 16.2lb/in
PS-TF17625 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.25) 626gf/mm , 35.0lb/in
PS-TF17650 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.50) 591gf/mm , 33.1lb/in
PS-TF17675 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.75) 560gf/mm , 31.3lb/in
PS-TF17700 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 7.00) 532gf/mm , 29.8lb/in
PS-TF17725 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 7.25) 507gf/mm , 28.3lb/in
PS-TF14575 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 5.75) 347gf/mm , 19.4lb/in
PS-TF14600 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.00) 325gf/mm , 18.2lb/in
PS-TF14625 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.25) 306gf/mm , 17.1lb/in
PS-TF14650 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.50) 294gf/mm , 16.2lb/in
PS-TF14675 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.75) 274gf/mm , 15.3lb/in
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Hey guys, I had a request to make up some aluminum rear hubs for the Photon. Feedback has been very good. I have a few sets still available. PM me for more info if interested. You can check them out @ http://home.earthlink.net/~cbradshaw25/id40.html
I bought a set. Goop had them made and brought some to The Track. They are very nice!



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Hey guys, I had a request to make up some aluminum rear hubs for the Photon. Feedback has been very good. I have a few sets still available. PM me for more info if interested. You can check them out @ http://home.earthlink.net/~cbradshaw25/id40.html
Is there a problem with the stock hubs ?
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Is there a problem with the stock hubs ?
There's no problem with the durability of the Photon. Actually it's pretty bullet proof. I stripped a rear hub after I clipped a board going into the sweeper and cartwheeled into a cinder block wall. The next weekend Goop showed me these...so I bought a pair.
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PS-TR15550 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 5.50) 393gf/mm , 22.0lb/in
PS-TR15575 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 5.75) 367gf/mm , 20.5lb/in
PS-TR15600 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.00) 344gf/mm , 19.2lb/in
PS-TR15625 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.25) 324gf/mm , 18.1lb/in
PS-TR15650 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.50) 306gf/mm , 17.1lb/in
PS-TR15675 Shock Spring (14 x 1.5 x 6.75) 289gf/mm , 16.2lb/in
PS-TF17625 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.25) 626gf/mm , 35.0lb/in
PS-TF17650 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.50) 591gf/mm , 33.1lb/in
PS-TF17675 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 6.75) 560gf/mm , 31.3lb/in
PS-TF17700 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 7.00) 532gf/mm , 29.8lb/in
PS-TF17725 Shock Spring (13 x 1.7 x 7.25) 507gf/mm , 28.3lb/in
PS-TF14575 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 5.75) 347gf/mm , 19.4lb/in
PS-TF14600 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.00) 325gf/mm , 18.2lb/in
PS-TF14625 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.25) 306gf/mm , 17.1lb/in
PS-TF14650 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.50) 294gf/mm , 16.2lb/in
PS-TF14675 Shock Spring (13 x 1.4 x 6.75) 274gf/mm , 15.3lb/in[/QUOTE]
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hey guys,

can someone teach me how to fit in smc c max li-po using banana plug.

if got pic more nice.thanks in advance.
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I'm not ire you cab fit that lipo in.

I run the GM lipo and it has the bannana plugs lowered and still only just fits.

You may have to bend a battery cell bar. Then solder a bannana tube on to that.

I hope that makes some sense for you.
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hey guys,

can someone teach me how to fit in smc c max li-po using banana plug.

if got pic more nice.thanks in advance.
4700s? you can either solder up an L-shaped plug (clearance might still be an issue) or space the weight tray out a few mm from the mounts. The center part of the lipo tray under the top deck has slots so you can slide it out to take the plug outside the line of the top deck
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