2009 "IIC" Las Vegas International Indoor Championships

[al dente]

are you referring to the fact that i have an abnormally large cranial circumference to house the somewhat high brain cell count? of just the fact that i have a fat head?

[John Pape]

Hoping to come this year, wanted to some for the last couple of years but just not worked out.

I for one would definately like to see a control foam tyre for touring car, would make it a whole lot simpler and cheaper.

[al dente]

to be 100% honest, i think that is one of the big reasons that wgt has so much appeal.

[al dente]

Originally Posted by syndr0me

IIC needs a new villain, my checkered past is behind me. It's all puppies and baby squirrels these days.

aaaaaahhhhhhh, little kittens, and birdies.

[Big White]

Originally Posted by i am cornholio

is the amatuer class in tc going to happen again this year??? i think that it was a great class last year...

Are you really going to run the amatuer class this year?????????

[al dente]

scotty, now that we have had some fun, lets get to it.......i know what this post is going to start, but this topic is something that needs to be discussed now.

i really would like you to think about running 2 cell lipo in world gt. with 17.5 motors. we all know that lipo is the way everythng is going. running 2 cell 17.5 is what many clubs are doing to get people into the class. let's be honest, 13.5 4 cell, althogh very fun, is a bit lazy on a big track. i run 13.5 4 cell here against all lipo 17.5 cars and there is a pretty good difference. wgt class has replaced vintage here (thankfully) and we get 2 heats every sunday.

i really think that this is something to take into account when planning rules for your race to give people (and manufactures) some time to prep. i think it could easily be one of the biggest classes at iic this year.

[Team CRC]

Originally Posted by al dente

scotty, now that we have had some fun, lets get to it.......i know what this post is going to start, but this topic is something that needs to be discussed now.

i really would like you to think about running 2 cell lipo in world gt. with 17.5 motors. we all know that lipo is the way everythng is going. running 2 cell 17.5 is what many clubs are doing to get people into the class. let's be honest, 13.5 4 cell, althogh very fun, is a bit lazy on a big track. i run 13.5 4 cell here against all lipo 17.5 cars and there is a pretty good difference. wgt class has replaced vintage here (thankfully) and we get 2 heats every sunday.

i really think that this is something to take into account when planning rules for your race to give people (and manufactures) some time to prep. i think it could easily be one of the biggest classes at iic this year.

Amen brother! I agree. The 3.7 lipo is meant for 1:12th cars and maybe 1:10th cars on super small tracks (less than 70 foot straight). For the big tracks, we should be running 2S in the 1:10th cars.

[rc pete]

Sticking to ROAR rules prevents event-specific surprises and equipment requirements. The 1/10 on-road electric battery section of the rulebook states:
8.10.4.3 Battery Cells:
- Six cell maximum or 2s, 7.4v nominal lipo battery
- World GT 4 cell maximum only

One of the reasons why 4 cells was chosen in the first place was to keep speeds down, which allows more of the average racers to participate and be competitive.
Don't get me wrong, 1/10 pan mod was my favorite class before it died out... but that's just it, it was way too fast for most people.

[trdsupra88]

Originally Posted by TRACKSIDE

Amateur Division will again be back after the great response we had last year and the great racing that took place in it. This gave the true independent driver the opportunity to shine in a division where sponsored or factory drivers are not allowed to participate.

Is the amateur division open to all skill levels? Are there going to be different classes within (ie.13.5-17.5)? I am interested in racing at this event after two years of spectating.

[MAD916]

Just had the Regionals at our track this last weekend and had a promoters option class "Outlaw GT" 17.5, 2s lipo, open bodies. We also had the ROAR WGT class.

(7) entries WGT
(16) entries OGT

ave laps 1 sec quicker for OGT


Please Please Please Scotty............

[Gitsum]

Originally Posted by rc pete

Sticking to ROAR rules prevents event-specific surprises and equipment requirements. The 1/10 on-road electric battery section of the rulebook states:
8.10.4.3 Battery Cells:
- Six cell maximum or 2s, 7.4v nominal lipo battery
- World GT 4 cell maximum only

One of the reasons why 4 cells was chosen in the first place was to keep speeds down, which allows more of the average racers to participate and be competitive.
Don't get me wrong, 1/10 pan mod was my favorite class before it died out... but that's just it, it was way too fast for most people.

I am sure most know what the rulebook states but in defense of all that are asking for the change. Even the average Joe is jumping into WGT running a 2s lipo and 17.5 with no problems. As stated the speed isn't much faster and allows the new guys lower levels of maintenance and more fun actually driving. I say +1 for the change...

[ercwhtsd]

Originally Posted by al dente

scotty, now that we have had some fun, lets get to it.......i know what this post is going to start, but this topic is something that needs to be discussed now.

i really would like you to think about running 2 cell lipo in world gt. with 17.5 motors. we all know that lipo is the way everythng is going. running 2 cell 17.5 is what many clubs are doing to get people into the class. let's be honest, 13.5 4 cell, althogh very fun, is a bit lazy on a big track. i run 13.5 4 cell here against all lipo 17.5 cars and there is a pretty good difference. wgt class has replaced vintage here (thankfully) and we get 2 heats every sunday.

i really think that this is something to take into account when planning rules for your race to give people (and manufactures) some time to prep. i think it could easily be one of the biggest classes at iic this year.

What we have done at the club level, is 21.5/lipo and 4-cell 13.5. There is a "gentlemen's" agreement on gearing of 39/100 and so far it has worked out for those that are running here.

I am curious though for those that are running 17.5/lipo in WGT. Are you seeing the non-lipo friendly chassis's running saddle packs of some type or staying with 4-cell?

[odpurple]

Don't change the World GT rules. Its great as a 4 cell class, and the right speed for close racing by regular racers.

The idea that 2s 17.5 is "just a little faster" than 4 cell 13.5 is ridiculous, its way faster.

Going to 2s would eliminate some of the best cars for this class, which only accomodate 4 cells

[DHMOTORSPORTS]

Originally Posted by odpurple

Don't change the World GT rules. Its great as a 4 cell class, and the right speed for close racing by regular racers.

The idea that 2s 17.5 is "just a little faster" than 4 cell 13.5 is ridiculous, its way faster.

Going to 2s would eliminate some of the best cars for this class, which only accomodate 4 cells

I'm with you on this. I wish we had a wgt class locally. Leave the lipos to the tc classes. Keep it simple no need to complicate the rc world more than it already is with this whole lipo and motor combo of the week stuff. I will be purchasing a car just for this event..

[Scott B]

Originally Posted by odpurple

Don't change the World GT rules. Its great as a 4 cell class, and the right speed for close racing by regular racers.

The idea that 2s 17.5 is "just a little faster" than 4 cell 13.5 is ridiculous, its way faster.

Going to 2s would eliminate some of the best cars for this class, which only accomodate 4 cells

Didn't Tim C. beat the lipo/17.5 cars with his 4cell 13.5 car a couple of weeks ago at Norcal??

I feel the same as some. To grow the class its eaiser for a newbie to start with a lipo then Nimh's.

I know for my local track, we have got 5 new racers to run Crc's with lipo's with the first race coming up this weekend.