Low Grip Setup
#1
Low Grip Setup
I race on an extremely low grip surface.What setup adjustments can I make to improve traction? I drive a Schumacher MI3. I have already lowered my diffs and this has helped a bit, but my car is still has virtually no grip!
Thanks in advance,
nm6978
Thanks in advance,
nm6978
#2
Tech Elite
iTrader: (63)
different shock oil/ pistons, different tyres, Higher or lower ride height, run a front spool/Locker., change springs.
Please tell us more about what surface you are running on, bumpy asphelt etc....
And what tyres you are running at the moment
and what setup specs you have now
and what motor
Please tell us more about what surface you are running on, bumpy asphelt etc....
And what tyres you are running at the moment
and what setup specs you have now
and what motor
#3
1.The surface is very smooth asphalt indoor,very cold,dusty track
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
Any help appreciated
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
Any help appreciated
#4
1.The surface is very smooth asphalt indoor,very cold,dusty track
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
Any help appreciated
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
Any help appreciated
#5
Hara last time in HK ,
had used Orion JB foam insert
shock oil lighter or change shock spring .
1ST find which insert have more grip
2nd is shock rolling timing
had used Orion JB foam insert
shock oil lighter or change shock spring .
1ST find which insert have more grip
2nd is shock rolling timing
#6
1.The surface is very smooth asphalt indoor,very cold,dusty track
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
ride height:5mm front and back
droop:1mm front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
ride height:5mm front and back
droop:1mm front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
#7
Tech Elite
iTrader: (63)
1st try more droop all round (lettting the arms drop down more) and run a front spool.
try stiffer front springs, try cleaning the track, try lowering the rear upper inner camber link, try cs 27 on front & cs 22 on rear, make front toe 0Degrees, lengthen the wheel base of the car
Do most of these one at a time trying the car out in between
try stiffer front springs, try cleaning the track, try lowering the rear upper inner camber link, try cs 27 on front & cs 22 on rear, make front toe 0Degrees, lengthen the wheel base of the car
Do most of these one at a time trying the car out in between
#8
1.The surface is very smooth asphalt indoor,very cold,dusty track
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
ride height:5mm front and back
droop:1mm front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
2.I am currently running CS27s but sometimes use CS22s....club rules only allow slicks.
3.front Toe-out:2*
springs:Schumacher white springs front and back
camber(negative):1.5* front and back
diff height:low front and back
shock oil:40w front and back
ride height:5mm front and back
droop:1mm front and back
4. GM 13.5 motor
F toe out 0-1
Spring choice HPI F Gold , R Silver .
Oil Asso F 35-40 , R 30-35
Flow F 2mm , R 2.5mm
if not have control insert , can choice JB Foam insert
& use Trinity Tire tweak 2000 & after use Buggy grip in dirty track ,
in clear track use FX 2 !
#9
Around here we still have a couple of clubs that race on "slippy floor" as we call it in the UK - polished tile/wooden floors in gyms or school halls. Grip is very low - so low that we have to run spiked tyres! Looks very strange to anyone not used to racing in the UK.
We also do our fair share of racing on cold tarmac.
Anyway, what I have found from running on low-grip surfaces is...
- Tyres are crucial - get them right and everything else starts to come together. If the surface is cold, go for a soft compound. If the surface is very dirty, you may even need treads. Additive or even tyre warmers will help to generate a bit more grip at the start of the race, before the tyres get up to their normal working temperature.
- Avoid the temptation to go too soft on the suspension - although in theory it generates more grip, in practice it usually lets the car move around too much, so you get a poor tyre contact patch and poor handling response. A typical medium-grip asphalt setup should be soft enough.
- Run plenty of droop. More wheel travel creates grip for free.
We also do our fair share of racing on cold tarmac.
Anyway, what I have found from running on low-grip surfaces is...
- Tyres are crucial - get them right and everything else starts to come together. If the surface is cold, go for a soft compound. If the surface is very dirty, you may even need treads. Additive or even tyre warmers will help to generate a bit more grip at the start of the race, before the tyres get up to their normal working temperature.
- Avoid the temptation to go too soft on the suspension - although in theory it generates more grip, in practice it usually lets the car move around too much, so you get a poor tyre contact patch and poor handling response. A typical medium-grip asphalt setup should be soft enough.
- Run plenty of droop. More wheel travel creates grip for free.
#11
i race in a place called fermoy in ireland.
thanks to everyone for their help,
nm6978
thanks to everyone for their help,
nm6978