Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree3Likes

Tamiya TRF415

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-05-2009, 12:09 PM
  #20566  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 230
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

I have a 415 MSX with the one way and one way center pulley. I'd like to switch over to a spool and was wondering which spool do I purchase and what is needed to make my center a locked center shaft? I've tried searching but getting confused with all the different versions of the 415. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
home13oy75 is offline  
Old 06-05-2009, 01:00 PM
  #20567  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
94eg!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 832
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by home13oy75
I have a 415 MSX with the one way and one way center pulley. I'd like to switch over to a spool and was wondering which spool do I purchase and what is needed to make my center a locked center shaft? I've tried searching but getting confused with all the different versions of the 415. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Front & center direct-drives, you must use the parts from the Marc Rheinard versions of the 415 MSX or MSXX. You can download the kit instructions for both cars on TamiyaUSA.com. Just type MSXX into the search box and the Mark Rheinard kit should be one of the top two results. Once you click on that kit, there should be a button that says "produt manual" in upper right corner to click on.

You need:
- front MRE direct holder
- direct cups
- MRE direct cup sleeves
- direct cup pins
- center MRE direct holder
- plastic 18T pulleys

You should already have the rest of the parts...
94eg! is offline  
Old 06-06-2009, 01:56 AM
  #20568  
Tech Champion
 
tc3team's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 6,151
Default

With some careful shimming, I used a lightweight ta05 centre layshaft and standard ta05 pulleys in my trf415msxx.

Hope this helps.

http://www.thard.co.uk/415/tips/TA05pulleys.html

The only downside is that I now have a ta05, but minus its centre layshaft assembly, so that won't be going far in a hurry

Edit- I notice you only have the msx, not the msxx but with a bit of luck you can still do the same thing?...
tc3team is offline  
Old 06-06-2009, 04:55 AM
  #20569  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 230
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by 94eg!
Front & center direct-drives, you must use the parts from the Marc Rheinard versions of the 415 MSX or MSXX. You can download the kit instructions for both cars on TamiyaUSA.com. Just type MSXX into the search box and the Mark Rheinard kit should be one of the top two results. Once you click on that kit, there should be a button that says "produt manual" in upper right corner to click on.

You need:
- front MRE direct holder
- direct cups
- MRE direct cup sleeves
- direct cup pins
- center MRE direct holder
- plastic 18T pulleys

You should already have the rest of the parts...
Thanks for the information!
home13oy75 is offline  
Old 06-06-2009, 06:58 PM
  #20570  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
94eg!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 832
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by home13oy75
Thanks for the information!
I may have been mistaken for the center shaft portion. It looks like you would need quite a few more parts to run the MRE direct center shaft. You would also need the large e-clip, the two bearing holders, and the MRE or MRE-07 upper bulkhead braces. It looks like the MRE later cars mount the two 840 bearings in a different manner than your MSX.

Sorry.
94eg! is offline  
Old 06-07-2009, 12:27 PM
  #20571  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Rommel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 305
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quick question. whats the difference in chassis between the TRF415MSXX & TRF415MRE? I wasn't able to find a pic of TRF415MRE to compare only that it has a different part # for the chassis. Was wondering if it was just difference in chassis thickness. Thanks in advance.
Rommel is offline  
Old 06-07-2009, 08:12 PM
  #20572  
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 48
Default

Does anyone have a roll center program with the 415 MSX MRE measurements already inputted?
Rccarmaverick is offline  
Old 06-07-2009, 10:06 PM
  #20573  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
94eg!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 832
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Rommel
Quick question. whats the difference in chassis between the TRF415MSXX & TRF415MRE? I wasn't able to find a pic of TRF415MRE to compare only that it has a different part # for the chassis. Was wondering if it was just difference in chassis thickness. Thanks in advance.
There was the MSX-MRE and the MSXX-MRE. The MSXX was the cheaper version of the MSX-MRE. Not much changed, but they left out some of the lightweight hop-ups. They did switch to a thinner chassis plate with TB-Evo front bumper setup and a flexie top deck. It also used the newer hex-head ball studs which is much nicer...

The MSXX-MRE improved upon the MSXX by changing around the steering a bit to keep it out of contact with the belt. It even had a trimmed rear 1A bridge suspension mount for the front to keep the steering links from making contact. They also modified the motor mount to even up flex left to right. Then they removed a brace from in between the rear bulkheads, and cut the rear upper brace in half to increase rear flex and traction. It also had a stiffer upper deck somewhere between the MSXX & the old MRE. I know the lower deck has a different part number, but TamiyaUSA says it's the same (thickness I suppose)...
94eg! is offline  
Old 06-07-2009, 10:17 PM
  #20574  
Tech Regular
 
Blueman Austria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 427
Default

Originally Posted by 94eg!
There was the MSX-MRE and the MSXX-MRE. The MSXX was the cheaper version of the MSX-MRE. Not much changed, but they left out some of the lightweight hop-ups. They did switch to a thinner chassis plate with TB-Evo front bumper setup and a flexie top deck. It also used the newer hex-head ball studs which is much nicer...

The MSXX-MRE improved upon the MSXX by changing around the steering a bit to keep it out of contact with the belt. It even had a trimmed rear 1A bridge suspension mount for the front to keep the steering links from making contact. They also modified the motor mount to even up flex left to right. Then they removed a brace from in between the rear bulkheads, and cut the rear upper brace in half to increase rear flex and traction. It also had a stiffer upper deck somewhere between the MSXX & the old MRE. I know the lower deck has a different part number, but TamiyaUSA says it's the same (thickness I suppose)...
++


Hy!

The Lower deck of the MSXX MRE 2007 is 2,5mm thik, while the lower deck of the standard MSXX is 2mm thick.

Greetz Blueman
Blueman Austria is offline  
Old 06-08-2009, 08:42 AM
  #20575  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Rommel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 305
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Thanks for the info guys
Rommel is offline  
Old 06-08-2009, 11:51 AM
  #20576  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 230
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

For a outdoor asphalt parking lot race, what's a good starting point for droop? I looked at Jilles ETS setup and he uses 6mm downstop with a 5mm RH. So is that roughly 1mm over RH?

BTW, I'm running the 415 MSX with the short suspension arms.
home13oy75 is offline  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:39 PM
  #20577  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 230
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Can i just purchase this item :

TRF415 Front Direct Coupler Spool TAM49358

To work as a spool for my 415 MSX? I know that I need a locked center to complete it ... would it be bad to run this with a one-way center?
home13oy75 is offline  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:59 PM
  #20578  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 230
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Can i just purchase this item :

TRF415 Front Direct Coupler Spool TAM49358

To work as a spool for my 415 MSX? I know that I need a locked center to complete it ... would it be bad to run this with a one-way center?
home13oy75 is offline  
Old 06-12-2009, 05:46 PM
  #20579  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (49)
 
haywood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,877
Trader Rating: 49 (100%+)
Default 415 MS

I will be running my 415 on the rug with foams and I was wondering if I should run it the way I bought it with diff,diff,one way center shaft?Thanks
haywood is offline  
Old 06-13-2009, 06:15 AM
  #20580  
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
 
cheehtae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,470
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by haywood
I will be running my 415 on the rug with foams and I was wondering if I should run it the way I bought it with diff,diff,one way center shaft?Thanks
definitely diff, if ur running on rug with foam tires.
cheehtae is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.