2wdMod

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I dont think it makes me sound lazy when Iwas doing nothing but turning comms and tuning motors for 4 cars a race day(2 mine,2 for my son). Hell I literally jumped up and did the happy dance when roar approved the 17.5 for stock!! It made my racing MUCH more enjoyable this year.I now no longer anticipate and dread race days.

Wild Cherry

JimL
Sedan is doomed , will never be able to renew if a better system is`nt created ...

No beginner will pay to compete against racers who have years of
experience and thousands in equipment as it is now ....

Then there are the experience racers like me .
I won`t race a class designed for beginners and keep beating the same ....



Doomed ......

Better get that guy you said failed and start helping him, If you love this sport ...

AssocRacer

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I'm not understanding what you're saying here. Last time i checked, the Novak race has a SPORTSMAN class, a 17.5 class, a 13.5 class, a 10.5 class, and a mod class. Pick your motor and experience level and there are plenty of guys there to compete with. And last time i checked as well (which was club racing LAST NIGHT) we had a sportsman class, a 17.5 class, and a 13.5 class. Again, pick your skill level and motor and there were enough guys there to compete, even on a day where we got almost 7" of snow!

As far as the money goes, sure, it cost me a bit to get into brushless as i have three electric cars, but i was also able to sell all my speedos and motors, and i was able to sell my APS Dyno so i made some of my money back. Not to mention when i went to Lipo, i sold ALL of my batteries except for 1 and made about half back of what i put into my three lipos. Definately a money saver there. Haven't had to buy motors or batteries in like over a year.

Rick Hohwart

+1

Francis M.

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All your statements are not exclusive to sedan!!

2wdMod

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and that right there is priceless!!

SQUIER

I was laid off of work a month ago... right after my friend (12th scale Miles C.) suggested I run Vintage Trans Am and break out my 4-year-old XXX-S, paint a vintage body and glue up some cool-looking HPI 5-spoke wheels and treaded tires. I won my first race after having NOT raced in four years.

It'd be pretty cruel to lead a thirsty old horse to water and then kick the trough over. All I have are stock brushed motors and a lathe... I don't have a magnet zapper and I don't do anything else to my motors except blueprint them and my stuff isn't slow. I never did do anything else to my motors and I was the sportsman stock racer to beat for quite a while at my home track. After four years off, I can come back relaxed and have fun getting beat by the guys I used to race with :-)~ ...even while doing a comm cut.

At the next race there was a threat of no Vintage class but there was something new called RCGT. I blew the dust off of a TC3 I had laying around, was given a set of pre-glued X Patterns and with a LiPo batt that someone else gave me and a 27t I qualified 7 out of 43 guys... I can't wait to race again!

I'm out of work, and things aren't looking too bright economically at the moment, but I can still run on Saturday for just an entry fee. I want to run brushed; it's simple for me. I don't have to change brushes every two 5 minute runs anymore either... and the car is still competetive.

I just want to run; just want to drive, to practice (but there's no place locally these days...) and to race... and for the next few months at least, with a 27turn!


Merry Christmas, racers!

jiml

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I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment.

This thread was started by Dawn. Her purpose is to gather information to make ROAR racing better.

In the over one million anit-ROAR posts, one "suggestion" that keeps coming up is ROAR should run races like the independant races are run ie Snowbirds.

Now most of these national level non-ROAR races have gone brushless only. It's worth pointing out that there was little to no opposition to this decision.

So ROAR is considering going brushless only at Regional and National events. Only considering mind you. And already there are more posts complaining about it here than in all the other threads.

I believe Dawn shares my opinion that at the local level the track should do whatever it takes to get as many people racing as possible. If there are a handful of guys who want to run older brushed motors let them! There's no discussion here about not allowing brushed stock or super stock motors at the local level. Each track has to decide for themselves how best to run their program.

schurcr

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+1

jeffb

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I vote no to brushed motors at large events.

Warhawk 1

Hmmm... Ban brushed motors... Grow the sport/hobby... I guess it can't be questioned in the long run brushless is less expensive. However, some people can't afford to just choke out $250 on an esc/BL motor combo. Kids and entry level people looking at getting a car, electronics, charger, etc. it turns them away quickly. I have a guy who is going to start racing at our club because he can pick up some quality equiptment at a good price. He's a beginner that won't be able to drive as good as the equiptment he's buying anyway. What you do at the top levels does effect the lower levels. I say let them run and let the different mains sort them out.

jiml

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A kid or someone coming into this hobby for the first time is not going to the regionals or nats. And if you are going to a regional or national you're going to spend money anyway on tires, parts, and anything else you have that's near it's life cycle. You're not going to go to a big race with less than your best.

2wdMod

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+1..It's not like we are talking about banning brushed at a club level here.That would be silly for a while longer.I can see no problem with going brushless only for regionals and higher levels of competition.And on the real, with BL systems getting cheaper by the day, how much is it to set up a BL car to run either stock or mod?
129.99 novak havok system with 8.5
74.99 novak 17.5
204.98
-20.00 discount from tower
184.98 shipped and you have a 17.5 for stock and an 8.5 for mod.

AssocRacer

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Totally agree, and now that companies like Losi and Traxxas are actually making ther RTR's come with BL systems what's the problem here? You can get the Traxxas Rustler, which is an entry level car, for $279 from tower, RTR. Hell, it's getting harder and harder to actually find brushed equipment in the hobby shops now.

OvalDude99

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My point in all of this is that reading a lot of the posts in many of the forums, it seems everybody is talking about how to get a car to run faster, yet nobody says anything about getting a car to handle better. It's so simple to get a car to go fast in a strait line, but if you can't get it to turn, it's pretty much useless. If people would take a look at the fastest guys, they would notice that it's corner speed that will win the race.
Also, I would like to say that just because everybody at a big event is doing things one way, doesn't mean I am going to play lost sheep and follow their lead. I prefer to do things my way. If it's not competitive, that's my problem.
Somebody please tell me, where has the fun gone is all this. Win or loose, I enjoy racing period.
I have seen a lot of racers come and go because they have lost sight of the fun factor.