Xray M18
07-12-2004, 11:06 PM
#571
Then I stand corrected rightly so.
However, are you admitting that it has no 180 mounting holes? No very convenient for spec/stock classes.
However, are you admitting that it has no 180 mounting holes? No very convenient for spec/stock classes.
07-12-2004, 11:23 PM
#572
yes it does take 180. You can fit the 180 on the small holes and you put the one screw in the curved portion for the 280, and use the big holes for 300. I tried them all and they all work perfectly.
07-12-2004, 11:37 PM
#573
The screw holes for the 180 are too small whilst the 300 screw holes are to big to fit snugly a 280 size motor. Then your saying the actual inside curve of the mount is supporting the other end of the 280???
That makes no sense. Please post pictures.
That makes no sense. Please post pictures.
07-12-2004, 11:57 PM
#574
Alright...I'll take a pic and show you. Won't be able to do it until tomorrow though.
07-13-2004, 12:19 AM
#575
My friend in Japan sent me this...here you go. 280 does fit.
Last edited by stonedgti; 07-13-2004 at 01:04 AM.
07-13-2004, 01:19 AM
#576
Tech Initiate
wow, that's a nice looking motor mount. the finish on that thing is way better than the Square parts on my pro4. 
07-13-2004, 01:22 AM
#577
Thats a work around idea shown. It relies on 4 mounting holes on the motor and screwing into an area on the mount that wasnt meant to (that drilled out area is to lighten it and allow airflow for motors that have airchannels on the bottom). Do you have a stock mabuchi can 280 (Mini-T)? That idea used wont work on those.
This mount was not >designed< to hold 280's!
Dont get me wrong, its decent mount and has the right idea. But its flawed in this area. Hence, the Xray is better in this regard for much more motor options, and a better safer system to hold a 280 on.
This mount was not >designed< to hold 280's!
Dont get me wrong, its decent mount and has the right idea. But its flawed in this area. Hence, the Xray is better in this regard for much more motor options, and a better safer system to hold a 280 on.
07-13-2004, 01:35 AM
#578
I'll see if I can borrow a mabuchi 280 and try it.
If it works it works, plus how would we know if the design wasn't intentional? We're not the designers. I don't see any flaw if something works right. It might not be designed the way you logically think, but you can't just plain out say that it's flawed. You might be right, or I might be right, who really cares? You wanted me to show you proof and I showed it to you. and now you try to attack it from another angle...jeez man...I really wonder if you're just working for some company and see this new product as a threat. I don't think it's available over here in the US anyway.
It's a great mount. The finish on it is definitely better than the others...including my Xray mount. It definitely fits 180,280, and 300 motors. That's good enough for me to race with.
If it works it works, plus how would we know if the design wasn't intentional? We're not the designers. I don't see any flaw if something works right. It might not be designed the way you logically think, but you can't just plain out say that it's flawed. You might be right, or I might be right, who really cares? You wanted me to show you proof and I showed it to you. and now you try to attack it from another angle...jeez man...I really wonder if you're just working for some company and see this new product as a threat. I don't think it's available over here in the US anyway.
It's a great mount. The finish on it is definitely better than the others...including my Xray mount. It definitely fits 180,280, and 300 motors. That's good enough for me to race with.
Last edited by stonedgti; 07-13-2004 at 01:51 AM.
07-13-2004, 01:44 AM
#579
Tech Master
Can you get some of those parts for me? Those knuckles look nice.
07-13-2004, 01:55 AM
#580
Tech Initiate
Originally posted by oXYnary
Thats a work around idea shown. It relies on 4 mounting holes on the motor and screwing into an area on the mount that wasnt meant to (that drilled out area is to lighten it and allow airflow for motors that have airchannels on the bottom). Do you have a stock mabuchi can 280 (Mini-T)? That idea used wont work on those.
This mount was not >designed< to hold 280's!
Dont get me wrong, its decent mount and has the right idea. But its flawed in this area. Hence, the Xray is better in this regard for much more motor options, and a better safer system to hold a 280 on.
Thats a work around idea shown. It relies on 4 mounting holes on the motor and screwing into an area on the mount that wasnt meant to (that drilled out area is to lighten it and allow airflow for motors that have airchannels on the bottom). Do you have a stock mabuchi can 280 (Mini-T)? That idea used wont work on those.
This mount was not >designed< to hold 280's!
Dont get me wrong, its decent mount and has the right idea. But its flawed in this area. Hence, the Xray is better in this regard for much more motor options, and a better safer system to hold a 280 on.
if people are willing to buy the motor mount, they will probably by the upgraded motor too. also, why would anyone buy a speed 280 (mini-t stock motor) motor over a speed 300 motor when the price difference is a couple of dollars?
i don't see why this is unsafe? it's two screws holding down the motor, what else do you need?
07-13-2004, 07:05 AM
#581
I will save you the time, here is a stock can. As you can see your method wont work.
Now, if a motor company decides to use another can with the air flow on the bottom. You still would be out of luck because you couldn't rely on "kitty cornering" screws to fit into larger openings.
Would it surprise you I work for MMI? Me, myself, and I.
As far as layout and deciphering what they intended.. yes I cant tell. It's common sense. Also, dont forget the xray one has the same curved hole. Yet it also has the holes for a 280 to correctly mount (with the right diameter holes).
Again, Im not saying its a bad mount, but no, I dont see how you can go on how its better. Again, only IPD and Xray had the smarts to include a 280 mount (well that German company also).
Now, if a motor company decides to use another can with the air flow on the bottom. You still would be out of luck because you couldn't rely on "kitty cornering" screws to fit into larger openings.
Would it surprise you I work for MMI? Me, myself, and I.
As far as layout and deciphering what they intended.. yes I cant tell. It's common sense. Also, dont forget the xray one has the same curved hole. Yet it also has the holes for a 280 to correctly mount (with the right diameter holes).
Again, Im not saying its a bad mount, but no, I dont see how you can go on how its better. Again, only IPD and Xray had the smarts to include a 280 mount (well that German company also).
07-13-2004, 11:58 AM
#582
Hold back the pitbulls.
Like I said, I really like the one I have and the motors fit. The mount is thicker, and it prevents bending on hard impacts. The quality is really good, and I'm sure you'll agree if you saw one in person.
I'm glad that there are more choices of option parts for our M18s. It's all good at the end for us consumers.
Like I said, I really like the one I have and the motors fit. The mount is thicker, and it prevents bending on hard impacts. The quality is really good, and I'm sure you'll agree if you saw one in person.
I'm glad that there are more choices of option parts for our M18s. It's all good at the end for us consumers.
Last edited by stonedgti; 07-13-2004 at 12:10 PM.
07-13-2004, 07:26 PM
#584
Tech Addict
Any word on the PENGUIN M18 chassis? I have Motek & X-Ray and would like to get the M18 tricked all the way.
07-14-2004, 01:51 AM
#585
Tech Initiate
Originally posted by jeepnyy
Any word on the PENGUIN M18 chassis? I have Motek & X-Ray and would like to get the M18 tricked all the way.
Any word on the PENGUIN M18 chassis? I have Motek & X-Ray and would like to get the M18 tricked all the way.
$55.99 retail
this will include:
M1.5 Quasi Graphite Lower Chassis Plate
with 4 shock mounting angles at the rear
M1.5 Quasi Graphite Upper Deck Plate
M2.0 Quasi 180size Side Mount Motor Plate
M3.0 Quasi Front Shock Tower Plate
M3.0 Quasi Rear Shock Tower Plate
Directions and all Hardware Required for the Conversion.
Options will include:
300size Side Mount Motor Plate
180size Vertical Mount Motor Plate
300size Vertical Mount Motor Plate
400size Motor Upgrade Kit
Auxillary Radio Tray (for use with side mount motors)
Quick release Saddle Pack Battery Trays (Alternative Balancing)
Quick release Hybrid Pack Battery Trays (Alternative Balancing)
Quick Release Stick Pack Mount
Chassis features a symetrical 10 cell Slotted Design allowing all components including the motor and/or servo to be mounted on the opposite side of the car. Penguin r/c designed Shock Towers to facilitate use of stiffer springs to maximize performance. Vertical motor placement by only a change of the motor plate. Is capable of using any Xray option parts including thier motor mounts (though we suggest using the one that comes with the chassis as it is linked to both the upper and lower deck for better gear mesh and security). Optional Battey trays offer Quick release along with several additional weight balancing options depending upon placement. Optional Radio tray when using the side mounts offers additional mounting space for electronics.
we are hoping to have a web page up shortly with the chassis and currently have the directions and Manufacturing to do.. We are looking at a release date somewhere near the end of the month.
Brion Sohn
President
Penguin r/c