143LikesAwesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
The use of an EVO in USVTA kinda seems contrary to the spirit of that class... but hey, why not... anything goes these days.
01-05-2015, 05:29 PM
#7728
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Mike do you have any build tips for the new dampers?
01-05-2015, 07:39 PM
#7729
goto http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/parts.html
click on Rebuildable Damper Set
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
click on Rebuildable Damper Set
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
01-05-2015, 07:44 PM
#7730
Here's instructions on the new D2 damper build Mike put together.
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.
2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.
So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.
I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.
2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.
So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.
I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
01-05-2015, 07:57 PM
#7731
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goto http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/parts.html
click on Rebuildable Damper Set
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
click on Rebuildable Damper Set
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
Here's instructions on the new D2 damper build Mike put together.
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.
2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.
So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.
I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.
2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.
So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.
I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
01-06-2015, 02:48 AM
#7734
Tech Fanatic
The latest proven setups from our EU team drivers are here.
Max Machler was fast ( 2-nd place against very fast German drivers) during latest MCSS Open 2015 race in Germany with his setup.
The base carpet setup has been tested by Viljami Kutvonen in Finland.
It was very good and easy to drive according to Viljami report.
Max Machler was fast ( 2-nd place against very fast German drivers) during latest MCSS Open 2015 race in Germany with his setup.
The base carpet setup has been tested by Viljami Kutvonen in Finland.
It was very good and easy to drive according to Viljami report.
01-06-2015, 05:41 AM
#7735
Xtra bearings?
Mike I built both cars and have the 84 pkg. with two bearings left over in both kits. Did I miss something while building these cars?
01-06-2015, 09:55 AM
#7737
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Last edited by G-rem; 01-06-2015 at 11:37 AM. Reason: got my answer
01-06-2015, 05:38 PM
#7739
we will see. now at least i understand why the "A" gap is truly limited. my suspension is super light with the DR6 / DL6 for high grip carpet--
Front A=4; B=4.2 == 49.1
Rear A=4.2; B=3.0 == 55.6
i'm going to start at--
Front A=2; B=6.7 == 49.2
Rear A=2.4; B=5.8 == 55.4
i'll run my 17.5 stock car back to back w/ this new Evo II kit for the first time on Saturday. same motor type (Team Powers), battery (Aero Model 7600 90c), ESC (LRP Flow) to attempt to isolate some of the changes. i want to put A700-D2 into my 17.5 car later in the day.
i'll be building A700-D2 with Associated 80wt (1000 cst) tomorrow.
Front A=4; B=4.2 == 49.1
Rear A=4.2; B=3.0 == 55.6
i'm going to start at--
Front A=2; B=6.7 == 49.2
Rear A=2.4; B=5.8 == 55.4
i'll run my 17.5 stock car back to back w/ this new Evo II kit for the first time on Saturday. same motor type (Team Powers), battery (Aero Model 7600 90c), ESC (LRP Flow) to attempt to isolate some of the changes. i want to put A700-D2 into my 17.5 car later in the day.
i'll be building A700-D2 with Associated 80wt (1000 cst) tomorrow.
My current damper/spring setting are;
Front A-5.0 B-6.0 = 64.7gf/mm
Rear A-5.4 B-5.6 = 69.1gf/mm
(car is working well, I like the way it feels, however, I do think it is on the edge of traction rolling-if I clip a dot, it rolls easily.)
01-07-2015, 12:57 AM
#7740
Tech Rookie
Hello,
On the new lower deck C01AL-S2 the C04 and P12 rub it between.
Should we cut the plastic part P12?
On the new lower deck C01AL-S2 the C04 and P12 rub it between.
Should we cut the plastic part P12?