Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
#856
Didn't have time to experiment, all I did was soften the rear to kill the initial exit oversteer, which worked. I'm going to work on spring tension and damping first, then look at the ackermann and link lengths, then repeat the process over and over on different size tracks until I've got the default setting I need.
#857
His car was great but I must say it was too noisy LOL
#858
#859
Told him to apply some grease it was like a sound of Hummer drill that might be because he was using normal belt drive style motor mount...
#860
Tech Fanatic
Short AT14 are 27,5mm.
#861
Tech Initiate
#862
Tech Adept
#863
Despite they are very high quality Part prices are very reasonable: )
#864
My pit bag is much lighter now. The cost of entry is higher but I expect total cost of ownership to be less than the 3 other premium priced kits.
Coming from my 417 I was enable to remove spares such as:
Coming from my 417 I was enable to remove spares such as:
- Caster blocks
- Hubs
- Spare shocks
- Complete spring sets
- Shock oils
- Complete sets of suspension blocks A-E series and X-series
#865
link lengths?
OK thinking out loud here but..
Most set ups I found used really long links, even longer than than the wishbone.
However, with conventional TC's I found shorter links gave more response, and mid corner grip on most occasions, and I could go faster provided I was able to handle the increased response.
So far I'm thinking to try out the second shortest link length, the car is very smooth (and fast!) but would like perhaps a little more aggression to hold tight lines and corner speed.
This winter we have some good carpet meetings where the grip goes up dramatically and traction roll becomes an issue.
This car allows for links longer than anything else out there. Is this what the team drivers are using to take away bite and response (and traction roll) at big meetings when the grip comes up really high?
Really interested to hear opinions about this, pros and cons..
Most set ups I found used really long links, even longer than than the wishbone.
However, with conventional TC's I found shorter links gave more response, and mid corner grip on most occasions, and I could go faster provided I was able to handle the increased response.
So far I'm thinking to try out the second shortest link length, the car is very smooth (and fast!) but would like perhaps a little more aggression to hold tight lines and corner speed.
This winter we have some good carpet meetings where the grip goes up dramatically and traction roll becomes an issue.
This car allows for links longer than anything else out there. Is this what the team drivers are using to take away bite and response (and traction roll) at big meetings when the grip comes up really high?
Really interested to hear opinions about this, pros and cons..
#867
Tried the short links, good initial response then massive push so that didn't work. Went to the long link as per Laptev set up position 4(I started at Steen basic carpet length pos 3) and was a massive improvement but TBH the feeling is not good for me yet. Still the laptime is very, very fast. Fastest today.
I need to spend time to understand the damping and spring rates, I think this is the secret..when the feeling is good I am sure the car will be incredible.
Interesting that Anti Roll Bars are not used.
I need to spend time to understand the damping and spring rates, I think this is the secret..when the feeling is good I am sure the car will be incredible.
Interesting that Anti Roll Bars are not used.
#868
Had an 8 hour practice/test session with the A700. Close to having a good starting setup for technical/high bite carpet. My laptimes were on par with my 417 at that same track/layout from weeks previous. Surprised that the learning is as quick as it is. The car is very responsive to small changes. H
Took the car through the following changes:
Notes:
Took the car through the following changes:
- With/without flex screws
- Asy/Sym dampening
- SRS I/SRS II
- Long/short links
- Long wheelbase/short wheelbase
- With/without sway bars
- Less/more droop
- Body changes - LTCR v. P37
- Spool/Gear Diff (putty vs. 500K) front, gear diff rear
Notes:
- Wear on 'S' Bushings
- Learning to drive a shaft car - corner entry/scrubbing speed, will have to play with drag brake
- Gearing - carry 'more' gear
- No durability issues. Had a few glancing shots off of the click-track but didnt take anything out of the setup or settings
- Did not change motor package, battery location, tires (Jaco Blues). My guess is that the Jaco Blue is somewhere in the middle of the in terms of traction between Solaris Medium and Sweep 32. Sauce SXT
- Any feedback on the performance difference of using clips v. round v. square bushings?
- Any feedback from the team drivers about increasing spacers under the front arm P03 mounts? Looking for feedback on increasing the front roll center. Does the car behave consistently with a more balanced rollcenter placement?
#869
I'd like to try bars next in combination with softer suspension..I'll get a much needed test day on December 11.
Would like very much to try exactly the options you just went through.
Would like very much to try exactly the options you just went through.
#870
In most of the setups I am not seeing a lot of variation in any use of sway bars or big roll centers changes. As the only A700 I have seen in person is Steens it is hard to get perspective on what a good behaving A700 looks like. Steens car looked phenomenal. I have watched a few really good drivers take my car out for a test drive. In the hands of other, all things relative of course - the car looks really aggressive (good!), reactive and nimble.
It will be good once we see more owners provide feedback on their experiences.
Many of the characteristics that I liked in other cars are starting to show up well in this car. They aren't transferable in specific measurements, geometries or quantities - but they can get worked into the unique ways that the car reproduces the performance in its own implementation.
+++++ A tip that I picked up from the guys that used run the Alex Baracuda sedan - use White Lightning Clean or Finish Line Ceramic Wax Lube on the input/ring gears. Reduces friction, noise and makes the drivetrain really smooth. Apply thin coat, let dry and reapply. Race/practice with the car and reapply. It doesnt need a lot.
Last edited by MDawson; 11-19-2011 at 09:15 AM.