Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
#5326
Tech Apprentice
Yes John, for 100% zero flex (front <-> rear) the topdeck will be the best option. But on every test yet, if carbon chassis on asphalt or carpet, if alloy chassis on carpet, the car was without topdeck fastest. Also the front rear flex is no problem. It sounds strange, I know :-)
I know since the IIC in Vegas that US tracks are much different so maybe there are topdecks better because of the tires and high grip ;-)
I know since the IIC in Vegas that US tracks are much different so maybe there are topdecks better because of the tires and high grip ;-)
#5328
Yes John, for 100% zero flex (front <-> rear) the topdeck will be the best option. But on every test yet, if carbon chassis on asphalt or carpet, if alloy chassis on carpet, the car was without topdeck fastest. Also the front rear flex is no problem. It sounds strange, I know :-)
I know since the IIC in Vegas that US tracks are much different so maybe there are topdecks better because of the tires and high grip ;-)
I know since the IIC in Vegas that US tracks are much different so maybe there are topdecks better because of the tires and high grip ;-)
In most cases, in my testing, the car is at least slightly faster without the top deck, sometimes significantly faster. In some instances the car felt and lap times showed it was as fast with the top deck, but this was rare. Also, generally, I like the way the car rotated around the corner more when I am not using the top deck. I'm sure it is a bit of a personal choice / driving style too.
On US high grip, I believe there will be occasions that the top deck can be useful to avoid traction rolling but with it will come a difference in the way the car arcs / rotates around the corner, again, a driver preference thing.
Cheers,
Jake
#5329
Tech Regular
Has anyone of you opened the damper.
I like to know how its looked inside.
This helps me for switching to Awesomatic.
And can anybody tell wat is happened with Ivan Laptev?
Thanks
I like to know how its looked inside.
This helps me for switching to Awesomatic.
And can anybody tell wat is happened with Ivan Laptev?
Thanks
#5330
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
I have opened a couple of dampers but only cause I'm insistent on seeing how something works. But per Oleg...This is something that should only be done by the factory. I wholeheartedly agree. Although I took the time to take pictures and put everything back together, it's a pita. Plus I wouldn't trust to put those 2 dampers back into the car. Lol
Bottom line....don't take them apart, let the factory handle it
Bottom line....don't take them apart, let the factory handle it
#5331
I have opened a couple of dampers but only cause I'm insistent on seeing how something works. But per Oleg...This is something that should only be done by the factory. I wholeheartedly agree. Although I took the time to take pictures and put everything back together, it's a pita. Plus I wouldn't trust to put those 2 dampers back into the car. Lol
Bottom line....don't take them apart, let the factory handle it
Bottom line....don't take them apart, let the factory handle it
#5333
R/C Tech Elite Member
iTrader: (28)
Oleg, Freddy & all - what are you thoughts about the P31 adjustment? have any suggestions to run with or without a gap initially? I want to try a bunch of different combos, just not sure if there is enough time.
BTW - The production FFG kit is truly amazing. This is the best piece of machining / construction I've seen yet. I didn't know if Awesomatix cars could get better until I saw the FFG.
From an assembly standpoint, I think the important point is to make sure the built FFG is level/straight. I played with that for a few minutes and found that flipping it upside down on a pit board got the best configuration for me. I was almost hoping the 2.5mm screws could be tightened from the "bottom" of the parts.
BTW - The production FFG kit is truly amazing. This is the best piece of machining / construction I've seen yet. I didn't know if Awesomatix cars could get better until I saw the FFG.
From an assembly standpoint, I think the important point is to make sure the built FFG is level/straight. I played with that for a few minutes and found that flipping it upside down on a pit board got the best configuration for me. I was almost hoping the 2.5mm screws could be tightened from the "bottom" of the parts.
#5335
Tech Apprentice
I run the car with the alloy chassis mostly with a gap from 1mm (P31). I have no reason for this but I like it as the FFG is more smooth and the car can "work" more.
We still need more testing with all the options so Mike maybe you can tell us more after the weekend?
We still need more testing with all the options so Mike maybe you can tell us more after the weekend?
#5336
Tech Regular
Freddy, in my videos shown would you label it as smooth movement?
In the video I accelerate and break, is the movement sufficient or is it too little?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGthUZePBUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXy6DZWUTk
John
In the video I accelerate and break, is the movement sufficient or is it too little?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGthUZePBUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXy6DZWUTk
John
Super tidy install but one question........what is in the little black box with "R1" on it ?
Bb
Bb
#5338
Tech Regular
Thanks, I thought it could be a motor fan but was confused by its location.
Bb
Bb
#5339
Tech Fanatic
Please note also that some C21 samples can have 7,0mm hole instead of 6,0 mm hole in the center. This is due to the fact that several trial C21 test parts were mixed with the regular C21 by mistake.
Please use B74RS bearing plus SH0.5mm shim under this bearing plus SF3X6 screw instead of 6mm shims and SB3x5 screw at this case.
#5340
R/C Tech Elite Member
iTrader: (28)
I run the car with the alloy chassis mostly with a gap from 1mm (P31). I have no reason for this but I like it as the FFG is more smooth and the car can "work" more.
We still need more testing with all the options so Mike maybe you can tell us more after the weekend?
We still need more testing with all the options so Mike maybe you can tell us more after the weekend?
In case of C21 carbon top deck using you can even remove P31 stopper as this part doesn't work ( doesn't stop nothing ) with carbon top deck installed.
Please note also that some C21 samples can have 7,0mm hole instead of 6,0 mm hole in the center. This is due to the fact that several trial C21 test parts were mixed with the regular C21 by mistake.
Please use B74RS bearing plus SH0.5mm shim under this bearing plus SF3X6 screw instead of 6mm shims and SB3x5 screw at this case.
Please note also that some C21 samples can have 7,0mm hole instead of 6,0 mm hole in the center. This is due to the fact that several trial C21 test parts were mixed with the regular C21 by mistake.
Please use B74RS bearing plus SH0.5mm shim under this bearing plus SF3X6 screw instead of 6mm shims and SB3x5 screw at this case.
I continue to appreciate the direct feedback on setups and design scenarios. This is frankly one of the major reasons I (and many others) got involved with running this car.
On Saturday (and only Saturday unfortunately) I'll be trying a production FFG on carbon and a trail aluminum chassis. Prod aluminum chassis might get tried the following weekend.... as we are running out of time before Snowbirds.